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[M Dogg™]

Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

kobe has better range than jordan and it's not even close, duno why u'd feel the need 2 argue that..

That's true, Kobe loves those 40 foot jumpers, and he hits them all the time.

[Sccit]

Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

[Chamillitary Click]

This guy CLEARLY didn't watch the playoffs last year.

[Sccit]

This guy CLEARLY didn't watch the playoffs last year.

i watch pretty much every game. lebron is the most complimentary superstar of all time LOL

[M Dogg™]

Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3</a>

This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.

[Chamillitary Click]

M-Dogg give up. He's been bitter ever since LeBron was deemed better than Kobe. Now he realizes LeBron in all likely hood will go down better than Kobe all-time.

Nigga just called a 57% shooting, triple double getting, elite defender a "complimentary" superstar.

Nigga just claimed to watching every minute, saw LeBron go 7-8, 19 points in the first half, but he isn't "all that".

You gotta just laugh at a certain point.

[Sccit]

Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3</a>

This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.

lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!

[Sccit]

M-Dogg give up. He's been bitter ever since LeBron was deemed better than Kobe. Now he realizes LeBron in all likely hood will go down better than Kobe all-time.

Nigga just called a 57% shooting, triple double getting, elite defender a "complimentary" superstar.

Nigga just claimed to watching every minute, saw LeBron go 7-8, 19 points in the first half, but he isn't "all that".

You gotta just laugh at a certain point.

more proving my point....


why does lebron go 7-8? cuz those 8 attempts he takes are sure baskets....thats all the Heat need from him. they dont need 40 point nights from lebron to win. Lakers, Knicks, Thunder do.....if u cant understand this, then no need to comment. and ur known as the biggest lebron jockrider on this board, so why should anyone even take u seriously?

[Hack Wilson - real]

LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe 


as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.

[Sccit]

LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe 


as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.

again, not getting the point


lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.

[M Dogg™]

Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3</a>

This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.

lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!

You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.

NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?

[Hack Wilson - real]

he must have some sort of vision problem after last year's NBA finals


lol @ the thought of Carmelo being on Lebron's level at any point in his career 

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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3</a>

This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.

lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!

You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.

NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?

huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....


if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....


why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.

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Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.

Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.

Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.

You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.

You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.

You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.

But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.

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Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol



and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has

Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.

jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring 

Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?

Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it.  He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals

now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.

That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.

LOL  Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe


you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.


also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron

once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL

You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.

I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.

Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.

You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.

LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.

thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..

Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.

my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.

If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&amp;amp;version=3</a>

This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.

lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!

You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.

NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?

huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....


if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....


why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.

As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.

Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed.

Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.

Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only.

You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open.

You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them.

You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy.

But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.

I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!