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This is a fucking shame! Quran burning in Florida banned
Javier:
I'm not religious at all. I'm also not really a patriot, in the sense that this attitude of being "My country is right and yours is wrong". What I do know though is that if you were to stage a protest burning a bible, flag, or Qu'ran you are expect some obvious backlash because majority of the people are religious and have that mindset. Burning a novel will probably only infuriate fans of the author and really a small percentage of fans, and it would really be seen as a joke by most people. "Seriously, people are getting upset at a JK Tolkier book burning event?"
Furor Teutonicus:
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 11:02:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on September 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 09:55:28 PM ---Comparing a novel and religious scripture is ridiculous, whether or not you believe in religion. The other Priests, Rabbis, etc. are against the burning because radical Muslims have destroyed the image of the religion and should not be representing Islam, just as this guy shouldn't be representing Christians or Americans.
If Obama would have said something like that, if would have been irresponsible. Because he knows that if the Qur'an burning goes down, the troops will be targeted. It's not giving in to anything, its to a) protect the troops and b) show religious tolerance especially since Islam's image has been ruined by extremists.
Its one thing to go crazy over burning a novel; its another to show passion for the religious scripture of your religion. If Mr. Jones decides to do that, despite being told by various parties that it can affect the very people trying to protect the US, then the blood will be on his hands. You can't expect to put your hand in a fire and not to have consequences of your actions.
The Islamic community centre isn't going to be at Ground Zero. Its going to be 2 to 5 blocks away from the site there. They're having culinary schools and a swimming pool, basically like a YMCA or a Jewish community centre. And they're also having prayer sections for other religions to promote religion tolerance and peace with other religions; that's what the basis of Islam is, to promote peace and humanity with people. Extremists don't understand that but shouldn't be the representation of Islam, just like Mr. Jones isn't and shouldn't be one for Christians and Americans.
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What is more important? Our lives or our basic human rights. I don't know about you but I don't wanna live a world where I don't have those rights. This is the question you need to ask yourself. And I ain't saying we don't have those rights, but every time you GIVE IN to these niggas you're giving your freedom away piece by piece!! If you got somebody scared of you, you can get that person to do just about anything and that's what's happening here. "Oh shiiiit we gotta protect the troops!!!!!!!! we can't burn the Quran" hahahaha bitches! This is worth fighting for and if you really think you can say that blood is gonna be on that pastor's hands if he goes forward with burning this book then you need to checc yourself homie. Let's say if John Doe calls up my house and says to me "if you walk down the street today i'll kill a thousand people", so allright I don't walk down the street, then the next day he calls again and says "if you go to mcdonalds today i'll kill your children" etc. etc. and I don't do anything he says I can't do. You know where I'm going with this. You wanna be a punk and live like a bitch? I don't.
And as far as novels go. What the fucc do you think religious scripture is?
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For you it might be a novel; but for other people it has meaning.
As for the John Doe example, you aren't provoking anything by walking out in general or going to a McDonald's. If some random dude calls you saying they'll kill 1000 people, then you call the cops for that. This guy is provoking a response by wanting to burn the religious script of another religion. It would be like if a Jewish went on to burn the Bible because they didn't believe in it. Fine, you don't believe it than that's up to you. But that doesn't give them the right to burn a text that's sacred just because they didn't believe in it. And Obama would still have to protect the troops as much as he can. He's not banning book burning in general, he's saying not to burn the sacred scripture of a religion. Would he have a different stance if there weren't troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? Possibly. But till then he has an obligation to the troops that are over there risking their lives and their families.
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Sacred book? :D These people are already stupid enough for buying this religion crap, but getting pissed because s.o. wants to burn their 'holy book' who lives on the other part of the planet is too much. They should fucking care about the problems in their own country, and not what a stupid priest in America does.
And does it really make a difference if they threaten to kill American soldiers if they're already trying anyway?
Anunikke:
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 11:02:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on September 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 09:55:28 PM ---Comparing a novel and religious scripture is ridiculous, whether or not you believe in religion. The other Priests, Rabbis, etc. are against the burning because radical Muslims have destroyed the image of the religion and should not be representing Islam, just as this guy shouldn't be representing Christians or Americans.
If Obama would have said something like that, if would have been irresponsible. Because he knows that if the Qur'an burning goes down, the troops will be targeted. It's not giving in to anything, its to a) protect the troops and b) show religious tolerance especially since Islam's image has been ruined by extremists.
Its one thing to go crazy over burning a novel; its another to show passion for the religious scripture of your religion. If Mr. Jones decides to do that, despite being told by various parties that it can affect the very people trying to protect the US, then the blood will be on his hands. You can't expect to put your hand in a fire and not to have consequences of your actions.
The Islamic community centre isn't going to be at Ground Zero. Its going to be 2 to 5 blocks away from the site there. They're having culinary schools and a swimming pool, basically like a YMCA or a Jewish community centre. And they're also having prayer sections for other religions to promote religion tolerance and peace with other religions; that's what the basis of Islam is, to promote peace and humanity with people. Extremists don't understand that but shouldn't be the representation of Islam, just like Mr. Jones isn't and shouldn't be one for Christians and Americans.
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What is more important? Our lives or our basic human rights. I don't know about you but I don't wanna live a world where I don't have those rights. This is the question you need to ask yourself. And I ain't saying we don't have those rights, but every time you GIVE IN to these niggas you're giving your freedom away piece by piece!! If you got somebody scared of you, you can get that person to do just about anything and that's what's happening here. "Oh shiiiit we gotta protect the troops!!!!!!!! we can't burn the Quran" hahahaha bitches! This is worth fighting for and if you really think you can say that blood is gonna be on that pastor's hands if he goes forward with burning this book then you need to checc yourself homie. Let's say if John Doe calls up my house and says to me "if you walk down the street today i'll kill a thousand people", so allright I don't walk down the street, then the next day he calls again and says "if you go to mcdonalds today i'll kill your children" etc. etc. and I don't do anything he says I can't do. You know where I'm going with this. You wanna be a punk and live like a bitch? I don't.
And as far as novels go. What the fucc do you think religious scripture is?
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For you it might be a novel; but for other people it has meaning.
As for the John Doe example, you aren't provoking anything by walking out in general or going to a McDonald's. If some random dude calls you saying they'll kill 1000 people, then you call the cops for that. This guy is provoking a response by wanting to burn the religious script of another religion. It would be like if a Jewish went on to burn the Bible because they didn't believe in it. Fine, you don't believe it than that's up to you. But that doesn't give them the right to burn a text that's sacred just because they didn't believe in it. And Obama would still have to protect the troops as much as he can. He's not banning book burning in general, he's saying not to burn the sacred scripture of a religion. Would he have a different stance if there weren't troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? Possibly. But till then he has an obligation to the troops that are over there risking their lives and their families.
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I can't even burn books I paid for with my own money now? SMH
Furor Teutonicus:
--- Quote from: Anunikke on September 11, 2010, 06:22:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 11:02:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on September 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 09:55:28 PM ---Comparing a novel and religious scripture is ridiculous, whether or not you believe in religion. The other Priests, Rabbis, etc. are against the burning because radical Muslims have destroyed the image of the religion and should not be representing Islam, just as this guy shouldn't be representing Christians or Americans.
If Obama would have said something like that, if would have been irresponsible. Because he knows that if the Qur'an burning goes down, the troops will be targeted. It's not giving in to anything, its to a) protect the troops and b) show religious tolerance especially since Islam's image has been ruined by extremists.
Its one thing to go crazy over burning a novel; its another to show passion for the religious scripture of your religion. If Mr. Jones decides to do that, despite being told by various parties that it can affect the very people trying to protect the US, then the blood will be on his hands. You can't expect to put your hand in a fire and not to have consequences of your actions.
The Islamic community centre isn't going to be at Ground Zero. Its going to be 2 to 5 blocks away from the site there. They're having culinary schools and a swimming pool, basically like a YMCA or a Jewish community centre. And they're also having prayer sections for other religions to promote religion tolerance and peace with other religions; that's what the basis of Islam is, to promote peace and humanity with people. Extremists don't understand that but shouldn't be the representation of Islam, just like Mr. Jones isn't and shouldn't be one for Christians and Americans.
--- End quote ---
What is more important? Our lives or our basic human rights. I don't know about you but I don't wanna live a world where I don't have those rights. This is the question you need to ask yourself. And I ain't saying we don't have those rights, but every time you GIVE IN to these niggas you're giving your freedom away piece by piece!! If you got somebody scared of you, you can get that person to do just about anything and that's what's happening here. "Oh shiiiit we gotta protect the troops!!!!!!!! we can't burn the Quran" hahahaha bitches! This is worth fighting for and if you really think you can say that blood is gonna be on that pastor's hands if he goes forward with burning this book then you need to checc yourself homie. Let's say if John Doe calls up my house and says to me "if you walk down the street today i'll kill a thousand people", so allright I don't walk down the street, then the next day he calls again and says "if you go to mcdonalds today i'll kill your children" etc. etc. and I don't do anything he says I can't do. You know where I'm going with this. You wanna be a punk and live like a bitch? I don't.
And as far as novels go. What the fucc do you think religious scripture is?
--- End quote ---
For you it might be a novel; but for other people it has meaning.
As for the John Doe example, you aren't provoking anything by walking out in general or going to a McDonald's. If some random dude calls you saying they'll kill 1000 people, then you call the cops for that. This guy is provoking a response by wanting to burn the religious script of another religion. It would be like if a Jewish went on to burn the Bible because they didn't believe in it. Fine, you don't believe it than that's up to you. But that doesn't give them the right to burn a text that's sacred just because they didn't believe in it. And Obama would still have to protect the troops as much as he can. He's not banning book burning in general, he's saying not to burn the sacred scripture of a religion. Would he have a different stance if there weren't troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? Possibly. But till then he has an obligation to the troops that are over there risking their lives and their families.
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I can't even burn books I paid for with my own money now? SMH
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Yeah, they should see it as what it is, just a burned book I paid for, instead they have to come with 'symbolic meaning' and shit to make a political affair out of it. Obviously they like to burn other countries flags, fine, and we like to burn their religious book. These sand people should stop bitching.
Mo Z. Dizzle:
--- Quote from: still not decided on September 11, 2010, 05:04:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 11:02:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on September 10, 2010, 10:48:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 10, 2010, 09:55:28 PM ---Comparing a novel and religious scripture is ridiculous, whether or not you believe in religion. The other Priests, Rabbis, etc. are against the burning because radical Muslims have destroyed the image of the religion and should not be representing Islam, just as this guy shouldn't be representing Christians or Americans.
If Obama would have said something like that, if would have been irresponsible. Because he knows that if the Qur'an burning goes down, the troops will be targeted. It's not giving in to anything, its to a) protect the troops and b) show religious tolerance especially since Islam's image has been ruined by extremists.
Its one thing to go crazy over burning a novel; its another to show passion for the religious scripture of your religion. If Mr. Jones decides to do that, despite being told by various parties that it can affect the very people trying to protect the US, then the blood will be on his hands. You can't expect to put your hand in a fire and not to have consequences of your actions.
The Islamic community centre isn't going to be at Ground Zero. Its going to be 2 to 5 blocks away from the site there. They're having culinary schools and a swimming pool, basically like a YMCA or a Jewish community centre. And they're also having prayer sections for other religions to promote religion tolerance and peace with other religions; that's what the basis of Islam is, to promote peace and humanity with people. Extremists don't understand that but shouldn't be the representation of Islam, just like Mr. Jones isn't and shouldn't be one for Christians and Americans.
--- End quote ---
What is more important? Our lives or our basic human rights. I don't know about you but I don't wanna live a world where I don't have those rights. This is the question you need to ask yourself. And I ain't saying we don't have those rights, but every time you GIVE IN to these niggas you're giving your freedom away piece by piece!! If you got somebody scared of you, you can get that person to do just about anything and that's what's happening here. "Oh shiiiit we gotta protect the troops!!!!!!!! we can't burn the Quran" hahahaha bitches! This is worth fighting for and if you really think you can say that blood is gonna be on that pastor's hands if he goes forward with burning this book then you need to checc yourself homie. Let's say if John Doe calls up my house and says to me "if you walk down the street today i'll kill a thousand people", so allright I don't walk down the street, then the next day he calls again and says "if you go to mcdonalds today i'll kill your children" etc. etc. and I don't do anything he says I can't do. You know where I'm going with this. You wanna be a punk and live like a bitch? I don't.
And as far as novels go. What the fucc do you think religious scripture is?
--- End quote ---
For you it might be a novel; but for other people it has meaning.
As for the John Doe example, you aren't provoking anything by walking out in general or going to a McDonald's. If some random dude calls you saying they'll kill 1000 people, then you call the cops for that. This guy is provoking a response by wanting to burn the religious script of another religion. It would be like if a Jewish went on to burn the Bible because they didn't believe in it. Fine, you don't believe it than that's up to you. But that doesn't give them the right to burn a text that's sacred just because they didn't believe in it. And Obama would still have to protect the troops as much as he can. He's not banning book burning in general, he's saying not to burn the sacred scripture of a religion. Would he have a different stance if there weren't troops in Afghanistan and Iraq? Possibly. But till then he has an obligation to the troops that are over there risking their lives and their families.
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Sacred book? :D These people are already stupid enough for buying this religion crap, but getting pissed because s.o. wants to burn their 'holy book' who lives on the other part of the planet is too much. They should fucking care about the problems in their own country, and not what a stupid priest in America does.
And does it really make a difference if they threaten to kill American soldiers if they're already trying anyway?
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It gives the extremists another reason to attack.
And for most people, their religion will be more important than the country they live in. If this Priest was burning the Torah, Israel would also be pissed off. If you don't 'buy into' religion, that's your choice. Moderate Muslims such as myself respect that. Its just common courtesy we ask for that you treat something that is sacred to us with respect.
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