Anyone know why Pac and Treach didn't do more tracks together?

[TraceOneInfinite]

They have an unreleased track "Loyal to The Game" that I think was done origionally for the Above the Rim soundtrack, but finally came out on the Eminem produced 2pac album from 05.  Seems like Treach was one of his closest homies, surprised him and Pac didn't do more together.

[OG Hack Wilson]

loyal to the game was released on the above the rim cassette tape


and they also did "5 deadly venomz"

[TraceOneInfinite]

loyal to the game was released on the above the rim cassette tape


and they also did "5 deadly venomz"

What?  Another track that was only on the cassette?   I'm confused... so, one of 2pac's best songs "So Much Pain" wasn't on the cd I bought but was supposedly on the cassette tape as well?

Is there any reason Death Row put these tracks on the cassette but not on the cd?  It doesn't make sense.

...and btw, lol, I remember I bought my copy at Wall-Mart back in 94 so mine didn't even have the Dogg Pound track on it at all, I remember hearing it for the first time on the documentary The Show, the version they did live on Russel Simmons The Show was better anyway.

[OG Hack Wilson]

2pac got paid for all 3 songs (pour out a lil liqour, pain, loyal)

but for whatever fucked up reason Pain and Loyal to the game only got release don the Above the rim cassette and on certain single's as b-side songs.


thank god for "15 years on death row" for releasing PERFECT quality versions of both songs in og format


well, sorta OG format.  Big Syke says he was on the original loyal to the game but Pac took him off and put Treach and Riddler on it instead.  I believe Syke.

[GangstaBoogy]

Man...where the fuck is Treach?! All the sick niggas disappeared and the wack niggas took over.

[TraceOneInfinite]

2pac got paid for all 3 songs (pour out a lil liqour, pain, loyal)

but for whatever fucked up reason Pain and Loyal to the game only got release don the Above the rim cassette and on certain single's as b-side songs.


thank god for "15 years on death row" for releasing PERFECT quality versions of both songs in og format


well, sorta OG format.  Big Syke says he was on the original loyal to the game but Pac took him off and put Treach and Riddler on it instead.  I believe Syke.

Word.. but yo... I think your mixing up the Murder Was The Case Soundtrack with the Above The Rim soundtrack where you said "2pac got paid for all 3" because it was actually the Murder Was The Case soundtrack in which Pac said he got paid for 2 tracks they didn't even use.... unless it was actually Pac that had the two soundtracks mixed up... which would actually make more sense.

[Invincible]

Pain and Loyal To The Game are on here Infinite if you are interested.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W5ZRHPDD

[TraceOneInfinite]

Pain and Loyal To The Game are on here Infinite if you are interested.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W5ZRHPDD

Thanks, but yeah I've had "Pain" for several years, and i caught the Treach version of "Loyal to the Game" along with all this pac stuff that's been coming out the past few days

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

here's some trivia for u guys.... Treach (from naughty By Nature) is the only rapper in hiphp-history, that recorded songs wit 2Pac, Big Punisher, and Notoriois B.I.G.

he also did music wit Ol' Dirty Bastard, Guru, Eazy-E...

[Trip Dee]

Man...where the fuck is Treach?! All the sick niggas disappeared and the wack niggas took over.

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[MarshColin]

2pac got paid for all 3 songs (pour out a lil liqour, pain, loyal)

but for whatever fucked up reason Pain and Loyal to the game only got release don the Above the rim cassette and on certain single's as b-side songs.


thank god for "15 years on death row" for releasing PERFECT quality versions of both songs in og format


well, sorta OG format.  Big Syke says he was on the original loyal to the game but Pac took him off and put Treach and Riddler on it instead.  I believe Syke.

I'll take Treach over Syke, and most other rappers, any day of the week. Anybody got any info on Riddler?

[OG Hack Wilson]

2pac got paid for all 3 songs (pour out a lil liqour, pain, loyal)

but for whatever fucked up reason Pain and Loyal to the game only got release don the Above the rim cassette and on certain single's as b-side songs.


thank god for "15 years on death row" for releasing PERFECT quality versions of both songs in og format


well, sorta OG format.  Big Syke says he was on the original loyal to the game but Pac took him off and put Treach and Riddler on it instead.  I believe Syke.

I'll take Treach over Syke, and most other rappers, any day of the week. Anybody got any info on Riddler?

I'll take Syke over Treach myself.....BUT for that particular song since we don't have many Treach/Pac collabs and Syke/Pac worked a lot I'm glad they made th at choice to put Treach on it


As for the Riddler to be honest all I know about the guy is that he produced that song (Loyal to the game) and he is part of Treach's crew.

[JohnnyL]

loyal to the game was released on the above the rim cassette tape


and they also did "5 deadly venomz"

What?  Another track that was only on the cassette?   I'm confused... so, one of 2pac's best songs "So Much Pain" wasn't on the cd I bought but was supposedly on the cassette tape as well?

Is there any reason Death Row put these tracks on the cassette but not on the cd?  It doesn't make sense.

...and btw, lol, I remember I bought my copy at Wall-Mart back in 94 so mine didn't even have the Dogg Pound track on it at all, I remember hearing it for the first time on the documentary The Show, the version they did live on Russel Simmons The Show was better anyway.

 Yes.  For some reason, Death Row seemed to like putting extra songs on the cassette versions of some of their albums.  I believe "Murder Was the Case" was the same way.  Anyway, the cassette version of "Above the Rime" had three extra tracks, "Pain by 2ac feat. Big Stretch, "Loyal to the Game" by 2pac featuring Treach and the Riddler,
and "My Moni Rite" by Lord G.  And yes, you are also correct that the edited version of "Above the Rim" also didn't have the track "Dogg Pound 4 Life."  So if you had the edited cd, it would actually have 4 less songs on it than the explicit tape.

[JohnnyL]

here's some trivia for u guys.... Treach (from naughty By Nature) is the only rapper in hiphp-history, that recorded songs wit 2Pac, Big Punisher, and Notoriois B.I.G.

he also did music wit Ol' Dirty Bastard, Guru, Eazy-E...

 What about Bone Thugs N' Harmony?

[GfUnKLBC]

Treach sort of fell off IMO.