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Quote from: Infinite on October 08, 2010, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: rapsodie sees the groupie in you on October 08, 2010, 04:43:33 PMlmao, you're taking No Way Out or Life After Death over Reasonable Doubt? Credibility gone.No Way Out and Life After Death shit all over this album.. you want proof? Listen to the Jay-Z joints on No Way Out and Life After Death, those tracks are FULLY PRODUCED, those tracks are like mutherfucking movies compared to that corny ass "Brooklyn's Finest" track Biggie and him probably did in the space of a half hour that landed on Reasonable Doubt.So basically, you preffer mainstream production values to Jay's low-budget Reasonable Doubt. Fair enough. Personally I preffer lyrical content - similie, metaphor, wordplay, rhyme..
Quote from: rapsodie sees the groupie in you on October 08, 2010, 04:43:33 PMlmao, you're taking No Way Out or Life After Death over Reasonable Doubt? Credibility gone.No Way Out and Life After Death shit all over this album.. you want proof? Listen to the Jay-Z joints on No Way Out and Life After Death, those tracks are FULLY PRODUCED, those tracks are like mutherfucking movies compared to that corny ass "Brooklyn's Finest" track Biggie and him probably did in the space of a half hour that landed on Reasonable Doubt.
lmao, you're taking No Way Out or Life After Death over Reasonable Doubt? Credibility gone.
Quote from: The Watcher on October 08, 2010, 07:09:27 PM2pac dissed jay, infinite is a 2pac groupiemystery solvedThen how do you explain the fact that I consider Life After Death and No Way Out to be 5 Mic Classics?
2pac dissed jay, infinite is a 2pac groupiemystery solved
Quote from: KaiserSoze on October 09, 2010, 12:57:10 AMQuote from: Infinite on October 08, 2010, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: rapsodie sees the groupie in you on October 08, 2010, 04:43:33 PMlmao, you're taking No Way Out or Life After Death over Reasonable Doubt? Credibility gone.No Way Out and Life After Death shit all over this album.. you want proof? Listen to the Jay-Z joints on No Way Out and Life After Death, those tracks are FULLY PRODUCED, those tracks are like mutherfucking movies compared to that corny ass "Brooklyn's Finest" track Biggie and him probably did in the space of a half hour that landed on Reasonable Doubt.So basically, you preffer mainstream production values to Jay's low-budget Reasonable Doubt. Fair enough. Personally I preffer lyrical content - similie, metaphor, wordplay, rhyme.. Wait, so No Way Out and Life After Death don't have lyrical content, similie, metaphor, wordplay, and rhyme? Most of Puffy's lyrics were written by the likes of Biggie and Jadakiss, all he had to do was perform the shit and he had All-Star support on his tracks.But let's take a song where Puffy handles all the verses. Look at songs like "Pain", "Senorita", "What You Gonna Do", "Do You Know"... he may not have written those tracks, but those are some great story telling tracks, you feel like you are watching a blockbuster movie, the emotion and attention to detail that was put into those tracks. That shit is POETIC, CINEMATIC, TRAGIC, UPLIFTING.. all at once!! "Pain" -is like a damn soap opera style, with Puff about to die and give up when the ghost-like voice of B.I.G. appears with words and inspires him to move on, with the piano and dark accordion background sounds. This track is actually personal to Puffy's life. Like contemplating if it was all worth it for the fame and fortune only to see his man Big laying dead, with the bullet sound effects and thunderstorm effects you can visualize it all going down. Some ill story-telling in this joint like a lot of the album. So we aren't talking about just punch-lines that any emcee off the street can do, this album was full of mini-movie scripts. (Along with Big's death I think he's also touching on one incident at an arena he sponsored where some tragic shit happened I can't remember it exactly)"Senorita" is an ether-like fog of some dream-world with that dream girl you would do anything for, your nothing and not known to her but in your mind you'd give her the world, Jadakiss wrote that joint and it is one of the best tracks of it's kind ever made. If you listen to the detail of that track, with the skit preceding it, the Spanish influence, the sound-effects in the background; you aren't talking about a regular rap song anymore you are talking about a mini-movie production! "What You Gonna"- again a great story telling track, pondering life and death, being face to face the prospect of losing your life, and what thoughts might go through your head in that Jay-Z couldn't make meaningful tracks like that if his fucking life depended on it. All he can do is spit a metaphor about a fucking watch or something.
I just listened to it again for old times sake because I love 1996
I don't buy that he writes lyrics in his head. When he spits into a microphone and he records it ALL then what's the use of paper? He can just rewind that shit and play it back and add another verse. It's a rich man's version of using a pen an paper. Once he has everything together he can go and spit the actual song properly.Really, at the end of the day who doesn't write lyrics with their head?
Quote from: Action! on October 09, 2010, 02:53:35 PMI don't buy that he writes lyrics in his head. When he spits into a microphone and he records it ALL then what's the use of paper? He can just rewind that shit and play it back and add another verse. It's a rich man's version of using a pen an paper. Once he has everything together he can go and spit the actual song properly.Really, at the end of the day who doesn't write lyrics with their head?Yeah but from what alot of producers in the studio are saying is that he is one take in the booth. I have sat in many studio sessions and not many artists can do that. It is not to say their verses do not end up being dope, but to step in a booth and only do one take on a verse that is album really is impressive for anyone.
Quote from: D~Nice on October 09, 2010, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: Action! on October 09, 2010, 02:53:35 PMI don't buy that he writes lyrics in his head. When he spits into a microphone and he records it ALL then what's the use of paper? He can just rewind that shit and play it back and add another verse. It's a rich man's version of using a pen an paper. Once he has everything together he can go and spit the actual song properly.Really, at the end of the day who doesn't write lyrics with their head?Yeah but from what alot of producers in the studio are saying is that he is one take in the booth. I have sat in many studio sessions and not many artists can do that. It is not to say their verses do not end up being dope, but to step in a booth and only do one take on a verse that is album really is impressive for anyone. yup, 98percent of all Jay-Z-music is one takes. kinda like 2pacs cataloguei rememeber readin that Primo, is one of the few prducers that managed to get Jigga to do more than one take.
Quote from: imsohappydatmydiccsbig on October 09, 2010, 06:29:20 PMQuote from: D~Nice on October 09, 2010, 05:33:11 PMQuote from: Action! on October 09, 2010, 02:53:35 PMI don't buy that he writes lyrics in his head. When he spits into a microphone and he records it ALL then what's the use of paper? He can just rewind that shit and play it back and add another verse. It's a rich man's version of using a pen an paper. Once he has everything together he can go and spit the actual song properly.Really, at the end of the day who doesn't write lyrics with their head?Yeah but from what alot of producers in the studio are saying is that he is one take in the booth. I have sat in many studio sessions and not many artists can do that. It is not to say their verses do not end up being dope, but to step in a booth and only do one take on a verse that is album really is impressive for anyone. yup, 98percent of all Jay-Z-music is one takes. kinda like 2pacs cataloguei rememeber readin that Primo, is one of the few prducers that managed to get Jigga to do more than one take.Pac wrote his lyrics down