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Stephen Hawking says the universe created itself
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 06:10:15 PM ---If He exists outside time and space, as we know it, how does he have to be created? How do we know there isn't somethang bigger than Space??
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So.....if you don't feel its necessary for this god to be created by something, then why do you think its necessary for the universe to be created by something? My point being, you feel so compelled to come up a creator, but you completely ignore the creation of the creator. It seems a waste of time because you aren't really answering the question of how things came to be.
You laugh at the idea that the universe created itself. But now you're saying that God created itself? Just replace God with Universe and you'd be saying the same thing.
Teddy Roosevelt:
How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
QuietTruth:
http://www.youtube.com/v/mlnXRoCn7Lk?fs=1&hl=en_US
C-BLUE:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 04:13:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 02:01:53 PM ---Nobody knows how this thing started, but it's very easy to put god in when you don't know the answer. This is what every religious moron does when they don't understand something.
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How ironic... Again. Science does the same exact shit.
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The difference between a person of faith and your modern day scientist has to do with their perspective. Most scientists don't rule out god, but people of faith never rule out god. After all, they don't wanna go against their faith. Their main focus is always on god and therefore it becomes their main theory when dealing with things they don't understand. This is why faith prevents people from having a broad perspecitve and that is why there is less room for improvement. So please don't compare scientific theories (which is plural) to the single theory of god you fucking idiot. Science does not fall into the same trap. When scientists don't know the answer, they use millions of theories with valid evidence behind most of them. You have one single theory that you cling on like a cocksucker and not only is there NO EVIDENCE to give it a little weight, but there's NO EVIDENCE to prove god's existence either. NONE! You call that a valid theory? It wouldn't hold up in bullshit court. Yes I know you've taken issue with my namecalling, but it's very hard to hold back when you're dealing with this level of stupidity. I hope you as a Christian man will forgive me for that.
--- Quote ---I don't know how you come to these solid conclusions that modern day science experiments and theorys somehow lessens evidence of a God. I have no fuckin idea how people do that.
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First of all there is no evidence of a god, but I will definitely let you know as soon as they discover something. Have faith.
--- Quote ---And you are puttin' faith into people conducting the experiments. Okay, how does that differ anymore from a belief like mines? How? It doesn't and ya'll know it .
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I hope for your sake you will one day figure out the difference between the material world and the spirit world.
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 06:10:15 PM ---If He exists outside time and space, as we know it, how does he have to be created? How do we know there isn't somethang bigger than Space??
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm gonna answer this one after I have some shots first.
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
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I want an Atheistic response to this.
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