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Stephen Hawking says the universe created itself

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OG Hack Wilson:

--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.

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I want an Atheistic response to this.

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yeah I fail to see how everything in existance just appeared out of nowhere


matter don't create itself

QuietTruth:

--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:02:30 PM ---So please don't compare scientific theories (which is plural) to the single theory of god you fucking idiot.

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:banana:





--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:02:30 PM ---When scientists don't know the answer, they use millions of theories with valid evidence behind most of them.
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And it is ever-changing. So you are basing beliefs on somethang that could be proved wrong by another theory tomorrow.



--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:02:30 PM ---
--- Quote ---I don't know how you come to these solid conclusions that modern day science experiments and theorys somehow lessens evidence of a God. I have no fuckin idea how people do that.
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First of all there is no evidence of a god, but I will definitely let you know as soon as they discover something. Have faith.

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No shit Sherlock, so it does not LESSEN evidence of a God.


C-BLUE:

--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.

--- End quote ---

I want an Atheistic response to this.

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For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.

QuietTruth:

--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on October 19, 2010, 07:12:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.

--- End quote ---

I want an Atheistic response to this.

--- End quote ---

yeah I fail to see how everything in existance just appeared out of nowhere


matter don't create itself

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As if The Big Bang Theory isn't coincidental enough, they also gotta say the effect it had, 80 foot tall Dinosaurs, oh and than, US, is all by mere chance.

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.

--- End quote ---

I want an Atheistic response to this.

--- End quote ---

For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.

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Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.

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