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Stephen Hawking says the universe created itself
C-BLUE:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:21:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:02:30 PM ---When scientists don't know the answer, they use millions of theories with valid evidence behind most of them.
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And it is ever-changing. So you are basing beliefs on somethang that could be proved wrong by another theory tomorrow.
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Yes I am lol, but not all theories can be ever changing. We are talking about theories right? You do know what a theory is? Let me try and put this in the most simplest way possible. Theories can not tell you for certain how something got started and that is why they can't give you solid answers. Every time a scientist presents a theory, he is not saying, 'I know the answer'. He's saying 'This could be the answer'. So he's also saying 'I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER'. Unlike you I have a very broad perspective and I don't limit my questions. Idiot.
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:21:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:02:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:21:59 PM ---I don't know how you come to these solid conclusions that modern day science experiments and theorys somehow lessens evidence of a God. I have no fuckin idea how people do that.
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First of all there is no evidence of a god, but I will definitely let you know as soon as they discover something. Have faith.
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No shit Sherlock, so it does not LESSEN evidence of a God.
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You implied there was evidence. Glad you admit there's no evidence. This is progress.
C-BLUE:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
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I want an Atheistic response to this.
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For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.
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Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.
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There is also a difference between evidence and no evidence.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:57:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
--- End quote ---
I want an Atheistic response to this.
--- End quote ---
For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.
--- End quote ---
Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.
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There is also a difference between evidence and no evidence.
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There's also a difference between left and right. What's your point?
C-BLUE:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:59:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:57:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
--- End quote ---
I want an Atheistic response to this.
--- End quote ---
For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.
--- End quote ---
Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.
--- End quote ---
There is also a difference between evidence and no evidence.
--- End quote ---
There's also a difference between left and right. What's your point?
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You really think that someone of Hawking's stature would present a theory based on mere belief? With god, you got nothing but mere belief.
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 08:03:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:59:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:57:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
--- End quote ---
I want an Atheistic response to this.
--- End quote ---
For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.
--- End quote ---
Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.
--- End quote ---
There is also a difference between evidence and no evidence.
--- End quote ---
There's also a difference between left and right. What's your point?
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You really think that someone of Hawking's stature would present a theory based on mere belief? With god, you got nothing but mere belief.
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We'd have to wait for Hawking's book to come out before that can be determined, but from what has been revealed from the book so far, that's all it seems to be. And God is not just mere belief. The concept of God at it's most basic label is just that the physical world as a beginning and end. Therefore something outside of the physical must be responsible for it. From that you get hundreds of religions, sects, and cults.
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