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Stephen Hawking says the universe created itself
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
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The only difference is that we actually know the universe exists. Why bother involving an invisible and mystical all-powerful entity?
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:51:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: C-BLUE on October 19, 2010, 07:26:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 07:08:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on October 19, 2010, 07:00:49 PM ---How is saying the Universe created itself any different then saying God created the Universe? They are both "something out of nothing" theories.
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I want an Atheistic response to this.
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For one. It's a scientific theory. There is actually a difference between that and a theory that centers largely around the spirit world.
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Scientific or spiritual, they are both theories with little evidence. And were is Hawking's evidence that the Universe created itself? It seems more like philosophy and rationalizing to me.
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Hawkings theory isn't really based on anything. It's a speculation. But its a speculation that doesn't involve mystical all-powerful beings. Hence I'm more willing to hear it out than the Christian biblical stories?
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: rapsodie sees the elano in you on October 19, 2010, 06:39:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 06:10:15 PM ---If He exists outside time and space, as we know it, how does he have to be created? How do we know there isn't somethang bigger than Space??
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So.....if you don't feel its necessary for this god to be created by something, then why do you think its necessary for the universe to be created by something? My point being, you feel so compelled to come up a creator, but you completely ignore the creation of the creator. It seems a waste of time because you aren't really answering the question of how things came to be.
You laugh at the idea that the universe created itself. But now you're saying that God created itself? Just replace God with Universe and you'd be saying the same thing.
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QT you plan on offering a response to this?
Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on October 19, 2010, 09:55:11 AM ---I was waiting for somebody to post this. Waiting.
If there wasn't a Creator why would there be death?
If there wasn't a Creator why does everythang happen to work on time?
So now after some valid thoughts...
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No way I'm gonna get sucked into this bullshit again, just this: Anybody who thinks these were valid thoughts should look for a legal guardian. Should come in handy in the long run.
Anunikke:
--- Quote from: S.I.K. on October 19, 2010, 09:22:48 PM ---Christians will never accept the Big Bang Theory because they have been taught from a young age that it is a stupid idea.
Athiests will never accept Intelligent Design because they are convinced that the existence of God is a stupid idea.
There is no evidence towards either theory AND shitting on each other's theories is equally retarded.
I just want some alien pussy.
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THere is actual avatar porn out there if your interested.
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