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Why would someone vote against Prop 23?
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Javier on November 04, 2010, 01:41:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on November 04, 2010, 01:34:15 PM ---
Meanwhile the "environmentalists" can't see the bigger picture, the pollution will just move elsewhere while on aggregate the developed world's standard of living quickly erodes, but don't let the bigger picture get in the way of your "principles".
No one of importance really gives a flying fuck about "pollution" the depleted uranium they have dropped by the millions of tonnes in Iraq, Kosovo and Afghanistan also, but nope, gotta have your feel good factor. It will feel good when you hear of ten million green jobs being created, you won't care about the 30 million jobs lost as a result because you are captain planet!
And so the new religion is birthed
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I don't give a fuck about other places, I give a fuck about where I live. Go ahead and put quotation marks over pollution like if it's myth, there are motherfuckers dying with cancer along the 710 corridor in Long Beach/L.A.. Oh wait, it's just a coincidence I'm sure that there is a higher concentration of cancer in that area than in the rest of the state based on pure randomness. Go ahead and make fun of these people, with your "witty" remarks about Captain Planet, it's not changing my beliefs about where I live. This is my fucking house.
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Cancer rates are 1 in 3, because of the synthetic crap you digest, the radiation around you and the CRAP they put in the water supplies, there is of course the sulphur and all that good stuff, but if it's not in your back yard the prevailing winds carry it to you.
Oh and ah yes, the small matter of depleted uranium being dropped like confetti!
Don't you get how marketing works? you use the most striking examples to sell your product, in this case, it's about some genuinely bad cases which sell the case of shutting everything down bar the few.
Javier:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on November 04, 2010, 01:47:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on November 04, 2010, 01:41:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on November 04, 2010, 01:34:15 PM ---
Meanwhile the "environmentalists" can't see the bigger picture, the pollution will just move elsewhere while on aggregate the developed world's standard of living quickly erodes, but don't let the bigger picture get in the way of your "principles".
No one of importance really gives a flying fuck about "pollution" the depleted uranium they have dropped by the millions of tonnes in Iraq, Kosovo and Afghanistan also, but nope, gotta have your feel good factor. It will feel good when you hear of ten million green jobs being created, you won't care about the 30 million jobs lost as a result because you are captain planet!
And so the new religion is birthed
--- End quote ---
I don't give a fuck about other places, I give a fuck about where I live. Go ahead and put quotation marks over pollution like if it's myth, there are motherfuckers dying with cancer along the 710 corridor in Long Beach/L.A.. Oh wait, it's just a coincidence I'm sure that there is a higher concentration of cancer in that area than in the rest of the state based on pure randomness. Go ahead and make fun of these people, with your "witty" remarks about Captain Planet, it's not changing my beliefs about where I live. This is my fucking house.
--- End quote ---
Cancer rates are 1 in 3, because of the synthetic crap you digest, the radiation around you and the CRAP they put in the water supplies, there is of course the sulphur and all that good stuff, but if it's not in your back yard the prevailing winds carry it to you.
Oh and ah yes, the small matter of depleted uranium being dropped like confetti!
Don't you get how marketing works? you use the most striking examples to sell your product, in this case, it's about some genuinely bad cases which sell the case of shutting everything down bar the few.
--- End quote ---
Yeah fucking marketing, because people all over the god damn united states care about that 710 corridor. SHIT IT'S ALL OVER THE WEB/NEWS/FORUMS OMG EVERYWHERE. Yeah, I have more faith in a peer reviewed study about the 710 corridor and its surrounding areas than whatever the fuck you're gonna say about it.
Javier:
There are local environmental issues throughout the world, if these local issues are being deal with the support of the local community...why should outsiders give a fuck? Mind your own god damn business.
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Sami on November 04, 2010, 01:47:30 PM ---Bad economic times are exactly the right time to make regulations stricter and force this technology to be implemented because if these things were done during good times the corporations would still complain and say "this'll cause a slowdown, can't we wait some more?".
We can't wait anymore. We have the technology and the knowledge to replace fossil fuel already, it's just a matter of forcing the cheapass corporations to make the initial buys to create an economy-of-scale and bring the technology into wide use. You may not know this, cars between 1910 and 1922 were all-electric, it wasn't til the mid-20s that gasoline became cheaper than electricity thanks to the Saudi oil fields being drilled.
We need to create a system to pay Californians well if they generate extra electricity and the state should also loan money to homeowners to buy American solar panels or to fix up their homes for conservation. Both those things would circulate money in the economy and create jobs for the construction industry, while saving electricity and creating a market for solar energy.
Also, they should require both conservation technology and solar technology in all future buildings via building codes because recently an MIT lab developed solar tech that you can literally paint on a building so that the entire part of said building that gets sunlight can be used to produce energy. Combine that with wireless electricity and continue to develop the technology and we could make fossil fuels unnecessary.
Fuck the oil and coal corporations. Since the 1970s they've bought the rights to these technologies to hold the patent and prevent them from being produced to protect their ill-gotten monopoly.
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Incorrect actually and bad researching, the oil corporations like this, they can make huge amounts of money off carbon trading because there are many processes they can modify to rake in carbon offsetting.
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Javier on November 04, 2010, 01:58:08 PM ---There are local environmental issues throughout the world, if these local issues are being deal with the support of the local community...why should outsiders give a fuck? Mind your own god damn business.
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An "outsider" has every right to express themselves on any issue, or else there really would be no actual discussion just continuous piggy backing and back slapping. As an "outsider" it should also speak to the unbelievable blindness and naivety.
I mean for fuck sake if you want to live in a dirt poor country where industry is but a speck on the map, then I am sure there are many places you can go to.
That is basically the future of America, but it won't matter, at least not for a while because it will feel good and then people will just wrap themselves in the bullshit of the "elections" every few years when suddenly hmm maybe rollings things back decades and decades wasn't a good idea because the developing countries will do whatever they want and perhaps being dirt poor aint so cool after all.
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