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@VinceYoung10for your info I have my shoulder pads stop believing everything u here.
Quote from: Lunatic on November 21, 2010, 05:11:46 PM@VinceYoung10for your info I have my shoulder pads stop believing everything u here.How could you want someone so illiterate to be your starting QB?
Quote from: Shallow on November 21, 2010, 04:29:37 PMQuote from: Lunatic on November 21, 2010, 04:19:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on November 21, 2010, 04:17:00 PMI'd drop Young before Fisher unless you have a solid champ coming in as HC, but even then Young might not be safe with a Parcells or a Cowher, and I doubt either would come in anyway. You could go the Tampa route and get a young guy so him and VY can be buddies and hope it turns out like the Bucs this year, but I don't see that happening twice. Fisher might only be an 8-8 guy who gets lucky some years, but with out him you're risking a 4-12 guy.This is not an organization committed to winning, so a new guy might get killed coming in as coach. Look, if you can get Dungy and he likes VY and wants to keep him going then you can keep it as an 8-8 team that might get lucky. Anyone else could be a disaster.Fisher is 8-8 or 9-7 every year. Defines mediocre. I'm willing to take a chance on either a 4-12 or 11-5 guy. Rather risk it then guarantee 8-8 every year with no playoff birth.Your wrong there. Young can be a 10-6 or more guy with the right circumstances. In his career he's been 8-5 as a starter, 9-6 & 8-2.Young can be a 10-6 guy on the Ravens or the Jets. Because both teams are built to be 10-6 or more with out there QBs. The Titans aren't built like that. And THE only coach I could see coming in and keeping Young and giving that team a winning shot is Dungy. Parcels, Cowher, or Marty can make that team a 10-6 team but they'd both drop Young and draft a QB.I don't know how U can say that when I posted those records as a Titans starter.
Quote from: Lunatic on November 21, 2010, 04:19:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on November 21, 2010, 04:17:00 PMI'd drop Young before Fisher unless you have a solid champ coming in as HC, but even then Young might not be safe with a Parcells or a Cowher, and I doubt either would come in anyway. You could go the Tampa route and get a young guy so him and VY can be buddies and hope it turns out like the Bucs this year, but I don't see that happening twice. Fisher might only be an 8-8 guy who gets lucky some years, but with out him you're risking a 4-12 guy.This is not an organization committed to winning, so a new guy might get killed coming in as coach. Look, if you can get Dungy and he likes VY and wants to keep him going then you can keep it as an 8-8 team that might get lucky. Anyone else could be a disaster.Fisher is 8-8 or 9-7 every year. Defines mediocre. I'm willing to take a chance on either a 4-12 or 11-5 guy. Rather risk it then guarantee 8-8 every year with no playoff birth.Your wrong there. Young can be a 10-6 or more guy with the right circumstances. In his career he's been 8-5 as a starter, 9-6 & 8-2.Young can be a 10-6 guy on the Ravens or the Jets. Because both teams are built to be 10-6 or more with out there QBs. The Titans aren't built like that. And THE only coach I could see coming in and keeping Young and giving that team a winning shot is Dungy. Parcels, Cowher, or Marty can make that team a 10-6 team but they'd both drop Young and draft a QB.
Quote from: Shallow on November 21, 2010, 04:17:00 PMI'd drop Young before Fisher unless you have a solid champ coming in as HC, but even then Young might not be safe with a Parcells or a Cowher, and I doubt either would come in anyway. You could go the Tampa route and get a young guy so him and VY can be buddies and hope it turns out like the Bucs this year, but I don't see that happening twice. Fisher might only be an 8-8 guy who gets lucky some years, but with out him you're risking a 4-12 guy.This is not an organization committed to winning, so a new guy might get killed coming in as coach. Look, if you can get Dungy and he likes VY and wants to keep him going then you can keep it as an 8-8 team that might get lucky. Anyone else could be a disaster.Fisher is 8-8 or 9-7 every year. Defines mediocre. I'm willing to take a chance on either a 4-12 or 11-5 guy. Rather risk it then guarantee 8-8 every year with no playoff birth.Your wrong there. Young can be a 10-6 or more guy with the right circumstances. In his career he's been 8-5 as a starter, 9-6 & 8-2.
I'd drop Young before Fisher unless you have a solid champ coming in as HC, but even then Young might not be safe with a Parcells or a Cowher, and I doubt either would come in anyway. You could go the Tampa route and get a young guy so him and VY can be buddies and hope it turns out like the Bucs this year, but I don't see that happening twice. Fisher might only be an 8-8 guy who gets lucky some years, but with out him you're risking a 4-12 guy.This is not an organization committed to winning, so a new guy might get killed coming in as coach. Look, if you can get Dungy and he likes VY and wants to keep him going then you can keep it as an 8-8 team that might get lucky. Anyone else could be a disaster.
^ I really don't believe that (not talkin' Jim Caldwell). I don't think it's fair to say under a new Titans coach Vince can't go better than 8-8He 30-17 as an NFL starter and very little of that IMO has to do with Fisher when we've seen Young save Fisher's job twice (esp. the 0-6 start with Kerry)
^ I think they would have at least beat Hou & Jax and been 2-4. That would have resulted in 10-6 and a playoff birth I believeI agree Fisher builds solid teams when given little to nothing; my issue is when given above average rosters, the record is still average. This is not a bad roster. Best RB in the NFL, a very serviceable group of WR's, a good enough O-Line, pro bowl caliber pass defenders in Finnegan & Griffin, and good LB like Witherspoon & Tulloch, Brown & Jones are good DT and Ball/Babin have given them great production at DE. 5-5 after a 5-2 start is unacceptable.We also get killed by penalties every week which reflects poor discipline from the coaching staff