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for an album to even be considered as a classic there can't be any 'wack' or 'ok' tracks on there.
fail thread.. i understand that you want to fade Dre since Detox is actually comin, but tellin that those track u mentioned from "2001" are whack or those The Chronic ones its just bad..
you lost any credibility imo for saying stranding on deathrow is anything less than amazing
Damn Dude....Stranded on Death Row is a classic for real..So what if it is a posse cut...
Also, the only joint on 2001 i might give u is "Let's Get High"...It's just such a simple beat but it jams though..The rest of them joints u named are dope as hell.. The only time DRe has made some questionable joints to me is when he works with Em sometimes..
What's funny is I didn't even read those 2001 comments, that "Stranded On Death Row" comment just killed it for me. To me that song is like a Dr. Dre highlight reel in terms of bringing out the very best in young, unknown rappers. There's nothing weak about it at all. I wish there were producers out nowadays who could put out a posse cut like that and give such a polished sound to such raw lyricsim.
I said it's good because it's a posse cut... but just the beat on its own, it isn't the best beat in the world. It's better than anything out today, sure, but comparitively, it's not as dope a beat as the rest of the Chronic
Quote from: UCC on November 20, 2010, 01:50:22 PMI said it's good because it's a posse cut... but just the beat on its own, it isn't the best beat in the world. It's better than anything out today, sure, but comparitively, it's not as dope a beat as the rest of the Chronic Am I really the only one who just gets pissed about people who think PRODUCTION is just the beat? I don't care about comparing instrumentals. Am I ever going to being listening to Dre Day and Stranded From Death Row at the same time? Probably not. The job of the producer is to come up with music that best compliments the lyrics that the artist or artists is laying down and in many cases, coach that artist on how to bring the right cadence, delivery, etc. In my opinion, "Stranded" has the perfect instrumental for the material. It compliments it perfectly.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on November 20, 2010, 02:06:16 PMQuote from: UCC on November 20, 2010, 01:50:22 PMI said it's good because it's a posse cut... but just the beat on its own, it isn't the best beat in the world. It's better than anything out today, sure, but comparitively, it's not as dope a beat as the rest of the Chronic Am I really the only one who just gets pissed about people who think PRODUCTION is just the beat? I don't care about comparing instrumentals. Am I ever going to being listening to Dre Day and Stranded From Death Row at the same time? Probably not. The job of the producer is to come up with music that best compliments the lyrics that the artist or artists is laying down and in many cases, coach that artist on how to bring the right cadence, delivery, etc. In my opinion, "Stranded" has the perfect instrumental for the material. It compliments it perfectly. To me, the vocals are awesome, the overall idea of the track is awesome, the beat is cool, but just a little underwhelming to me, it was the only beat on there that didn't hit me when I first played the album, and because there was a lot of dope stuff coming out in '92 from the east coast, it always sounded too much like a regular east coast beat to me,when the rest were all so dope because they were on some new shitThe Chronic isn't the best example of what I'm talking about though, because it's harder to pick out a "weaker" trackStraight Outta Compton is more what I mean, where Something 2 Dance 2 is a pretty wack track, but the album is still a classicSo with Detox, I'm saying that even if you think Kush isn't so great, Detox can still be a classic provided there are a handful of really, truly amazing tracks on it