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Quote from: Lost Angel on December 31, 2002, 02:01:26 AMTo Hoe Hopper.'Pac didn't influince rap? Have you ever heard DMX, Ja Rule, Tha Realest, or any other corny sounding sound-a-likes. As for improving the game. Before 'Pac, if any one did a Keep Your Head Up, a Dear Mama, a Brenda Got A Baby, then they would be dissed, and lose their street rep that was so important back then. Eazy's influince was not musical. Ice Cube cam up with the political shit, Dre and Yella worked on the sound, more Dre than Yella. Who else would sample Funky Worm, Dre. Eazy was a founder because of his business influince. Eazy started his own damn record label, housed a west coast all star group, got female rappers, and keep all that shit gangsta. Ruthless was the blueprint to Death Row. We now how that turned out. 'Pac came out and rapped on home issues, and got deep, a depth no one can reach, but they try. 'Pac upped the game to a point were no one can up it. Eazy made business out of the game. 'Pac made great music, Eazy made money. His music was made by other, for him. He just was the right person to do it, because of his voice.I cant agree 100%, Nobody daired to go out & say fuck the police or shit like that, that kept rappers from expressing their real anger but then E just came up with it & putted NWA in the role & that opent gates so he did influence rap more then 2pac, like Shock G said "We were (digital underground) underground because we expressed our real anger but since NWA came, it opent alot of gates for us rappers". & Eazy made alot of money but lost alot to, when he died he was hella bankrupt.. Tomica, the one that gets dissed alot for killing Ruthless took care so that it could run functionally again, now they may not put out the biggest gangsta waxes but they still are in business.
To Hoe Hopper.'Pac didn't influince rap? Have you ever heard DMX, Ja Rule, Tha Realest, or any other corny sounding sound-a-likes. As for improving the game. Before 'Pac, if any one did a Keep Your Head Up, a Dear Mama, a Brenda Got A Baby, then they would be dissed, and lose their street rep that was so important back then. Eazy's influince was not musical. Ice Cube cam up with the political shit, Dre and Yella worked on the sound, more Dre than Yella. Who else would sample Funky Worm, Dre. Eazy was a founder because of his business influince. Eazy started his own damn record label, housed a west coast all star group, got female rappers, and keep all that shit gangsta. Ruthless was the blueprint to Death Row. We now how that turned out. 'Pac came out and rapped on home issues, and got deep, a depth no one can reach, but they try. 'Pac upped the game to a point were no one can up it. Eazy made business out of the game. 'Pac made great music, Eazy made money. His music was made by other, for him. He just was the right person to do it, because of his voice.
Quote from: 40oz Graphire Dr. Funk on December 31, 2002, 10:41:48 AMQuote from: Lost Angel on December 31, 2002, 02:01:26 AMTo Hoe Hopper.'Pac didn't influince rap? Have you ever heard DMX, Ja Rule, Tha Realest, or any other corny sounding sound-a-likes. As for improving the game. Before 'Pac, if any one did a Keep Your Head Up, a Dear Mama, a Brenda Got A Baby, then they would be dissed, and lose their street rep that was so important back then. Eazy's influince was not musical. Ice Cube cam up with the political shit, Dre and Yella worked on the sound, more Dre than Yella. Who else would sample Funky Worm, Dre. Eazy was a founder because of his business influince. Eazy started his own damn record label, housed a west coast all star group, got female rappers, and keep all that shit gangsta. Ruthless was the blueprint to Death Row. We now how that turned out. 'Pac came out and rapped on home issues, and got deep, a depth no one can reach, but they try. 'Pac upped the game to a point were no one can up it. Eazy made business out of the game. 'Pac made great music, Eazy made money. His music was made by other, for him. He just was the right person to do it, because of his voice.I cant agree 100%, Nobody daired to go out & say fuck the police or shit like that, that kept rappers from expressing their real anger but then E just came up with it & putted NWA in the role & that opent gates so he did influence rap more then 2pac, like Shock G said "We were (digital underground) underground because we expressed our real anger but since NWA came, it opent alot of gates for us rappers". & Eazy made alot of money but lost alot to, when he died he was hella bankrupt.. Tomica, the one that gets dissed alot for killing Ruthless took care so that it could run functionally again, now they may not put out the biggest gangsta waxes but they still are in business.Dude, Eazy did not have more impact on hip hop than Pac did, and to say so is just fucking preposterious. You can like you who you wanna like, cuz everyone got different tastes, but Pac is by far the most influential MC of all time. Eazy may have started NWA, but that doesnt measure up the influence that Pac has had on hip hop culture, and continues to have. All Eyez On Me is still the blueprint by which all commercial/street albums are made by, and countless artists continue to sample his music, whether its his lyrics, his beats, or concepts.
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Quote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 12:38:12 PMQuote from: 40oz Graphire Dr. Funk on December 31, 2002, 10:41:48 AMQuote from: Lost Angel on December 31, 2002, 02:01:26 AMTo Hoe Hopper.'Pac didn't influince rap? Have you ever heard DMX, Ja Rule, Tha Realest, or any other corny sounding sound-a-likes. As for improving the game. Before 'Pac, if any one did a Keep Your Head Up, a Dear Mama, a Brenda Got A Baby, then they would be dissed, and lose their street rep that was so important back then. Eazy's influince was not musical. Ice Cube cam up with the political shit, Dre and Yella worked on the sound, more Dre than Yella. Who else would sample Funky Worm, Dre. Eazy was a founder because of his business influince. Eazy started his own damn record label, housed a west coast all star group, got female rappers, and keep all that shit gangsta. Ruthless was the blueprint to Death Row. We now how that turned out. 'Pac came out and rapped on home issues, and got deep, a depth no one can reach, but they try. 'Pac upped the game to a point were no one can up it. Eazy made business out of the game. 'Pac made great music, Eazy made money. His music was made by other, for him. He just was the right person to do it, because of his voice.I cant agree 100%, Nobody daired to go out & say fuck the police or shit like that, that kept rappers from expressing their real anger but then E just came up with it & putted NWA in the role & that opent gates so he did influence rap more then 2pac, like Shock G said "We were (digital underground) underground because we expressed our real anger but since NWA came, it opent alot of gates for us rappers". & Eazy made alot of money but lost alot to, when he died he was hella bankrupt.. Tomica, the one that gets dissed alot for killing Ruthless took care so that it could run functionally again, now they may not put out the biggest gangsta waxes but they still are in business.Dude, Eazy did not have more impact on hip hop than Pac did, and to say so is just fucking preposterious. You can like you who you wanna like, cuz everyone got different tastes, but Pac is by far the most influential MC of all time. Eazy may have started NWA, but that doesnt measure up the influence that Pac has had on hip hop culture, and continues to have. All Eyez On Me is still the blueprint by which all commercial/street albums are made by, and countless artists continue to sample his music, whether its his lyrics, his beats, or concepts. Now we come to the main subject of this topic, if it wasnt for Eazy there wouldnt be no 'Pac & you cant denie that... So Eazy made it posible for 2Pac to unpack hes influence of the rap industry, Now who had the most influence? Eazy.BTW: this topic is about who you like most, not who had the most influence
Quote from: 40oz Graphire Dr. Funk on December 31, 2002, 01:20:08 PMQuote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 12:38:12 PMQuote from: 40oz Graphire Dr. Funk on December 31, 2002, 10:41:48 AMQuote from: Lost Angel on December 31, 2002, 02:01:26 AMTo Hoe Hopper.'Pac didn't influince rap? Have you ever heard DMX, Ja Rule, Tha Realest, or any other corny sounding sound-a-likes. As for improving the game. Before 'Pac, if any one did a Keep Your Head Up, a Dear Mama, a Brenda Got A Baby, then they would be dissed, and lose their street rep that was so important back then. Eazy's influince was not musical. Ice Cube cam up with the political shit, Dre and Yella worked on the sound, more Dre than Yella. Who else would sample Funky Worm, Dre. Eazy was a founder because of his business influince. Eazy started his own damn record label, housed a west coast all star group, got female rappers, and keep all that shit gangsta. Ruthless was the blueprint to Death Row. We now how that turned out. 'Pac came out and rapped on home issues, and got deep, a depth no one can reach, but they try. 'Pac upped the game to a point were no one can up it. Eazy made business out of the game. 'Pac made great music, Eazy made money. His music was made by other, for him. He just was the right person to do it, because of his voice.I cant agree 100%, Nobody daired to go out & say fuck the police or shit like that, that kept rappers from expressing their real anger but then E just came up with it & putted NWA in the role & that opent gates so he did influence rap more then 2pac, like Shock G said "We were (digital underground) underground because we expressed our real anger but since NWA came, it opent alot of gates for us rappers". & Eazy made alot of money but lost alot to, when he died he was hella bankrupt.. Tomica, the one that gets dissed alot for killing Ruthless took care so that it could run functionally again, now they may not put out the biggest gangsta waxes but they still are in business.Dude, Eazy did not have more impact on hip hop than Pac did, and to say so is just fucking preposterious. You can like you who you wanna like, cuz everyone got different tastes, but Pac is by far the most influential MC of all time. Eazy may have started NWA, but that doesnt measure up the influence that Pac has had on hip hop culture, and continues to have. All Eyez On Me is still the blueprint by which all commercial/street albums are made by, and countless artists continue to sample his music, whether its his lyrics, his beats, or concepts. Now we come to the main subject of this topic, if it wasnt for Eazy there wouldnt be no 'Pac & you cant denie that... So Eazy made it posible for 2Pac to unpack hes influence of the rap industry, Now who had the most influence? Eazy.BTW: this topic is about who you like most, not who had the most influenceThats a joke man. Pac woulda blown up with or without Eazy E. Give me ONE example of how Eazy made it possible for Pac to blow up......ONE example. You cant. Because Eazy had nothing to do with Pac's success. If anyone influenced Pac, it was Public Enemy and Rakim......
Pac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.
Quote from: hellrazor on December 31, 2002, 05:35:56 PMPac was rappin over Public Enemy type beats on his first two albums, especially on Strictly, which went platinum. Eazy had impact, but he wasnt one of Pac's influences. Rakim, Ice Cube, PE, and such were his main influences.Eazy E could have never existed, and Pac woulda still became the best selling rapper of all time.Whatta fuck are you talkin about? Public Enemy beats? Bobcat and Laylaw who did HIPHOP gangsta beats for the likes of:Eazy-E,Ice Cube and others...They are L.A. Producers...The only from the Eastcoast on that album is Special K...Dj Daryl is from tha Bay..The only reason Pac EVER could blow up is becuase of Eazy-E and Ice-t becuz they are the pioneers of "Gangsta" Rap...he did sell 6 million + with a album full of WESTCOAST beats and claimin WESTSIDE and clamin to be a THUG! shit Look at the albumcover Do you think that Pac would have sold those numbers with an album filled of song like Dear Mama??? HELL NO!