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Quote from: 13th Duke on January 13, 2011, 12:47:11 PMQuote from: THE RAPTURE on January 12, 2011, 08:02:47 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 12, 2011, 03:58:33 PMNot many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with. You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?I mentioned John Legend as the exception. I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him. Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.So thats that covered then...So explain how Kanye has prevented anyone from "getting their shine." He certainly hasn't gotten in anyone's way.Common is a veteran of the rap game, and Kanye was a relative newcomer when he signed him. I don't see how you expected Ye to improve his music. He gave him an outlet and a larger audience. You have unrealistic expectations if you expected more. After all, how much better can Common get? He's already a legend. Same with Nas, I wouldn't expect Ye would be able to do anything for him besides give him great production and some extra hype.
Quote from: THE RAPTURE on January 12, 2011, 08:02:47 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 12, 2011, 03:58:33 PMNot many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with. You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?I mentioned John Legend as the exception. I would say that Kid Cudi has carved his way through by himself. Kanye has limited input to Cudi's music and has only produced a very small amount of Cudi's tracks, not to mention Cudi's breakout hit had nothing to do with him. Common? Maybe, as Kanye did get him new fans with "Go", but Common had 4 albums before that which left him as an established hip-hop artist with a big fanbase. Kanye hasnt improved his music, just maybe given him a more commercial appeal.So thats that covered then...
Quote from: 13th Duke on January 12, 2011, 03:58:33 PMNot many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with. You don't think John Legend is successful? Common? Kid Cudi?
Not many artists have gone under Kanye's wing and became succesful (John Legend). Kanye is too egotistical and selfish to let anyone else get his shine. Not to mention his overbearing style over substance product drowns out any artist he collaborates with.
fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & wok with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
Quote from: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 13, 2011, 05:46:29 PMfuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & work with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic) You mean like L.E.S., Trackmasters, and Salaam Remi shit?I don't think L.E.S. does beats anymore, haven't heard the trackmasters in years... - he'll always prolly feature a Remi cut on his albums... Does Large Pro still have the heat he used to do back in the day?
fuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & work with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic)
Quote from: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 13, 2011, 05:46:29 PMfuck no its not a good move, nas needs to go back to the old school & wok with his old producers (illmatic, it was written, stillmatic) You mean like L.E.S., Trackmasters, and Salaam Remi shit?I don't think L.E.S. does beats anymore, haven't heard the trackmasters in years... - he'll always prolly feature a Remi cut on his albums... Does Large Pro still have the heat he used to do back in the day?