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ICHI THE KILLER:
yep dope movie really enjoyed, might even go to see again
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 21, 2012, 04:42:48 AM ---I was very pleased with the film. I felt the pacing was the best of the series. The other two both either went to far with the story or dragged on or both. I liked the explanation of Bane and the reasons he is there, and I liked how it ended. I have less complaints than I have of the other two films. Joker alone makes me lean towards the last film being best, but this is pretty close.
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If Shallow likes this movie, then god damn this movie has to be good. I have learned one thing about a Shallow review, a short good review is most people's 5 stars. A short paragraph complaint is like 4 stars, and a modest rant is like 3 stars, and a long page rant is a dud to him but must be a blockbuster smash that my wife will actually watch with me.
Can't wait to see it.
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 21, 2012, 04:42:48 AM ---I was very pleased with the film. I felt the pacing was the best of the series. The other two both either went to far with the story or dragged on or both. I liked the explanation of Bane and the reasons he is there, and I liked how it ended. I have less complaints than I have of the other two films. Joker alone makes me lean towards the last film being best, but this is pretty close.
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I've already seen the movie twice (once at midnight on Thursday, and again last night with my girlfriend), and I agree with a lot of what you said. Even though this one is longer, the pace was good, as you stated... and despite its length, I never really got bored or felt like I was waiting for something to happen, though there were cases of that in The Dark Knight. Obviously the portrayal of the Joker is hard to beat (in terms of Heath Ledger's performance), but the way they portrayed Bane overall was VERY good, maybe even better. I'd say that his dialogue was better than what they wrote for the Joker while making him the most dangerous villain (while being dangerous in a variety of ways) in the trilogy, which is what I felt separates Bane from the others... he is more intelligent than Joker, stronger than Batman (and possibly more skilled in hand-to-hand combat), while being far more feared. Joker, on the other hand, was dangerous but not feared ("We're not intimidated by your thugs") and never really had people bow down to him (as the mob bosses only got scared once he pulled out grenades or when in a situation where they were going to get killed anyway... Bane struck fear in everyone while also being able to kick damn near everyone's asses.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 23, 2012, 09:52:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 21, 2012, 04:42:48 AM ---I was very pleased with the film. I felt the pacing was the best of the series. The other two both either went to far with the story or dragged on or both. I liked the explanation of Bane and the reasons he is there, and I liked how it ended. I have less complaints than I have of the other two films. Joker alone makes me lean towards the last film being best, but this is pretty close.
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I've already seen the movie twice (once at midnight on Thursday, and again last night with my girlfriend), and I agree with a lot of what you said. Even though this one is longer, the pace was good, as you stated... and despite its length, I never really got bored or felt like I was waiting for something to happen, though there were cases of that in The Dark Knight. Obviously the portrayal of the Joker is hard to beat (in terms of Heath Ledger's performance), but the way they portrayed Bane overall was VERY good, maybe even better. I'd say that his dialogue was better than what they wrote for the Joker while making him the most dangerous villain (while being dangerous in a variety of ways) in the trilogy, which is what I felt separates Bane from the others... he is more intelligent than Joker, stronger than Batman (and possibly more skilled in hand-to-hand combat), while being far more feared. Joker, on the other hand, was dangerous but not feared ("We're not intimidated by your thugs") and never really had people bow down to him (as the mob bosses only got scared once he pulled out grenades or when in a situation where they were going to get killed anyway... Bane struck fear in everyone while also being able to kick damn near everyone's asses.
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Ledger's performance is far and away the best acting in the seriers. It's not even close. But also, the actual cinematic portrayal of the Joker in certain scenes make for more powerful moments than anything they did with Bane. Not that I'm knocking Bane. But the intro scene setting up Joker simply better with the bank heist over the plane scene with Bane. And the scene where Joker kills the fake Batman on TV was just downright nerve racking. Heath and Nolan made you a little on edge and nervous every time Joker was on the screen by the end of the film. It's in large part what made Two-Face so noneffective in my opinion. We just saw the scariest dude in the series for 2 hours, what the hell can Two-Face do that won't seem like a watered down version? The answer is nothing. You simply don't follow the king, you let him end the show.
It'd be like letting Jay Leno do a 30 minute stand up routine to end the show after you just watch two hours of Richard Pryor. The truth is that even if it's Bill Hicks with the best 30 minutes of his career, you're still too drained to care.
M Dogg™:
Reports came out during the Dark Knight shooting that Nolan had originally set up the story for Two Face to be the main villain in part 3, but changed the script so that Joker could continue in part 3 and basically Two-Face was an after though. Harvey Dent was so important to the series that I felt Two-Faces death at the end of the movie was wasted. But that's only after 4 years of watching my Dark Knight Blu Ray that I can actually point out it's flaws. But there was word coming off the set that Nolan was so much in love with Joker that he wanted him in part 3, and he was proud he didn't kill Joker. Sadly, we all saw what happened to Heath Ledger and Nolan said his done with the Joker after that. But even the dialog in Dark Knight pointed to an endless battle between Joker and Batman.
Fast forward to Dark Knight Rises, I have not seen it yet, but if Shallow says it's good then I'll go with it. I think the Dark Knight's pacing was intentionally jerky. Ledgers performance as Joker dominated the movie and the movie seemed to be at the Joker's pacing. It was almost like the movie was made so you felt like you are in either Batman's mind trying to defeat the Joker, or you were in Joker's mind. Either way, it seemed the pacing was meant to be jerky and uneven to give the feel of unpredictability the first time you want it. After a few watching the low parts get really low and the high parts are really intense. With Bane being a very smart and calculating villain, I can imagine that the pacing would be more even. Bane in the comics is a very even character, sometimes too cocky and always dangerous and intelligent.
As I said, I can't wait to see this, it's the first time I have ever NOT seen Batman on opening days since Batman Returns. This is also the first time a Batman movie came out since I had been married and my wife really wants me to wait until my birthday, but this is very very hard.
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