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DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 23, 2012, 11:49:50 AM ---Ledger's performance is far and away the best acting in the seriers. It's not even close. But also, the actual cinematic portrayal of the Joker in certain scenes make for more powerful moments than anything they did with Bane. Not that I'm knocking Bane. But the intro scene setting up Joker simply better with the bank heist over the plane scene with Bane. And the scene where Joker kills the fake Batman on TV was just downright nerve racking. Heath and Nolan made you a little on edge and nervous every time Joker was on the screen by the end of the film.
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They're just two different approaches, but I think Bane's scenes are just so brutal and more effective while showing that he is far less compassionate than Joker, who in most scenes gives people the chance to survive by killing each other, like when recruiting Gamble's men or when he threatened to blow up the hospital of that one Wayne Enterprises employee wasn't killed or when the two boats had triggers to blow up the other boat (though I realize he was going to do it himself, but only after neither boat triggered the explosion). On the flipside, Bane (and his men) are the ones to inflict pain and suffering and just do it without the other people having a shot at survival.
Nolan had to really tone down a lot of the violence, as a lot of what are really the most disturbing parts aren't even really seen, such as the scene where Bane breaks Dr. Pavel's neck or when he kills Daggett, though you can hear him screaming in the background. And even the three bodies of the U.S. Special Forces hanging from the bridge are only seen from a distance on the TV in Bruce's cell, and those scenes are actually pretty harsh for what they are. I'm almost surprised that it's not an R-rated movie for how brutal it was.
Either way, it's good that you liked it... I have no idea how anyone didn't like it, as the review put up on CNN was by a complete moron who had odd expectations of it.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 23, 2012, 12:09:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 23, 2012, 11:49:50 AM ---Ledger's performance is far and away the best acting in the seriers. It's not even close. But also, the actual cinematic portrayal of the Joker in certain scenes make for more powerful moments than anything they did with Bane. Not that I'm knocking Bane. But the intro scene setting up Joker simply better with the bank heist over the plane scene with Bane. And the scene where Joker kills the fake Batman on TV was just downright nerve racking. Heath and Nolan made you a little on edge and nervous every time Joker was on the screen by the end of the film.
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They're just two different approaches, but I think Bane's scenes are just so brutal and more effective while showing that he is far less compassionate than Joker, who in most scenes gives people the chance to survive by killing each other, like when recruiting Gamble's men or when he threatened to blow up the hospital of that one Wayne Enterprises employee wasn't killed or when the two boats had triggers to blow up the other boat (though I realize he was going to do it himself, but only after neither boat triggered the explosion). On the flipside, Bane (and his men) are the ones to inflict pain and suffering and just do it without the other people having a shot at survival.
Nolan had to really tone down a lot of the violence, as a lot of what are really the most disturbing parts aren't even really seen, such as the scene where Bane breaks Dr. Pavel's neck or when he kills Daggett, though you can hear him screaming in the background. And even the three bodies of the U.S. Special Forces hanging from the bridge are only seen from a distance on the TV in Bruce's cell, and those scenes are actually pretty harsh for what they are. I'm almost surprised that it's not an R-rated movie for how brutal it was.
Either way, it's good that you liked it... I have no idea how anyone didn't like it, as the review put up on CNN was by a complete moron who had odd expectations of it.
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CNN had 2 reviews, one positive and one negative. The negative one put politics into it and once you put liberal politics in a superhero movie, you show yourself as a moron.
DeeezNuuuts83:
I read that the box office numbers were at around $160 million, making it the third-biggest opening weekend (behind The Avengers and one of the Harry Potter movies). I wonder how much better it would've done if it weren't for the shootings... I don't doubt that it prevented some people (especially with children) from going. But I think this movie has a tad more replay value than the others, so perhaps the numbers will stay strong (and maybe even continue to pick up) since people will want to watch it more than once, while some of the people who were scared away by the shootings will obviously still watch it again, especially with the good reviews.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on July 23, 2012, 03:39:08 PM ---I read that the box office numbers were at around $160 million, making it the third-biggest opening weekend (behind The Avengers and one of the Harry Potter movies). I wonder how much better it would've done if it weren't for the shootings... I don't doubt that it prevented some people (especially with children) from going. But I think this movie has a tad more replay value than the others, so perhaps the numbers will stay strong (and maybe even continue to pick up) since people will want to watch it more than once, while some of the people who were scared away by the shootings will obviously still watch it again, especially with the good reviews.
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I know people who didn't go Friday or Saturday due to the shootings... I didn't start getting friend reviews on Facebook until Sunday. It had a bigger midnight showing than the Avengers then it feel hard. So I think the shooting hurt this movie's box office greatly.
Chamillitary Click:
Nolan is doing Superman coming out next Summer. Should be interesting. Nolan doesn't miss.
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