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Shallow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 23, 2012, 12:06:52 PM ---Reports came out during the Dark Knight shooting that Nolan had originally set up the story for Two Face to be the main villain in part 3, but changed the script so that Joker could continue in part 3 and basically Two-Face was an after though. Harvey Dent was so important to the series that I felt Two-Faces death at the end of the movie was wasted. But that's only after 4 years of watching my Dark Knight Blu Ray that I can actually point out it's flaws. But there was word coming off the set that Nolan was so much in love with Joker that he wanted him in part 3, and he was proud he didn't kill Joker. Sadly, we all saw what happened to Heath Ledger and Nolan said his done with the Joker after that. But even the dialog in Dark Knight pointed to an endless battle between Joker and Batman.
Fast forward to Dark Knight Rises, I have not seen it yet, but if Shallow says it's good then I'll go with it. I think the Dark Knight's pacing was intentionally jerky. Ledgers performance as Joker dominated the movie and the movie seemed to be at the Joker's pacing. It was almost like the movie was made so you felt like you are in either Batman's mind trying to defeat the Joker, or you were in Joker's mind. Either way, it seemed the pacing was meant to be jerky and uneven to give the feel of unpredictability the first time you want it. After a few watching the low parts get really low and the high parts are really intense. With Bane being a very smart and calculating villain, I can imagine that the pacing would be more even. Bane in the comics is a very even character, sometimes too cocky and always dangerous and intelligent.
As I said, I can't wait to see this, it's the first time I have ever NOT seen Batman on opening days since Batman Returns. This is also the first time a Batman movie came out since I had been married and my wife really wants me to wait until my birthday, but this is very very hard.
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The main flaw in the pacing for mew wasn't during the Joker/Batman stuff, it was the 45 minute Two-Face movie that came after Joker was defeated. It really dragged out the film.
DeeezNuuuts83:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 23, 2012, 11:22:37 PM ---Nolan is doing Superman coming out next Summer. Should be interesting. Nolan doesn't miss.
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Just to clarify, he is producing the movie but not directing it.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on July 24, 2012, 06:02:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 23, 2012, 12:06:52 PM ---Reports came out during the Dark Knight shooting that Nolan had originally set up the story for Two Face to be the main villain in part 3, but changed the script so that Joker could continue in part 3 and basically Two-Face was an after though. Harvey Dent was so important to the series that I felt Two-Faces death at the end of the movie was wasted. But that's only after 4 years of watching my Dark Knight Blu Ray that I can actually point out it's flaws. But there was word coming off the set that Nolan was so much in love with Joker that he wanted him in part 3, and he was proud he didn't kill Joker. Sadly, we all saw what happened to Heath Ledger and Nolan said his done with the Joker after that. But even the dialog in Dark Knight pointed to an endless battle between Joker and Batman.
Fast forward to Dark Knight Rises, I have not seen it yet, but if Shallow says it's good then I'll go with it. I think the Dark Knight's pacing was intentionally jerky. Ledgers performance as Joker dominated the movie and the movie seemed to be at the Joker's pacing. It was almost like the movie was made so you felt like you are in either Batman's mind trying to defeat the Joker, or you were in Joker's mind. Either way, it seemed the pacing was meant to be jerky and uneven to give the feel of unpredictability the first time you want it. After a few watching the low parts get really low and the high parts are really intense. With Bane being a very smart and calculating villain, I can imagine that the pacing would be more even. Bane in the comics is a very even character, sometimes too cocky and always dangerous and intelligent.
As I said, I can't wait to see this, it's the first time I have ever NOT seen Batman on opening days since Batman Returns. This is also the first time a Batman movie came out since I had been married and my wife really wants me to wait until my birthday, but this is very very hard.
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The main flaw in the pacing for mew wasn't during the Joker/Batman stuff, it was the 45 minute Two-Face movie that came after Joker was defeated. It really dragged out the film.
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I kind of agree, but overall I didn't have an issue with it. Nolan fell into the same trap as Rami fell into, and that's putting too much into a movie because of the change in direction mid-shooting. Nolan wanted Joker to be the star in part 2, after scripting Two-Face for part 3. I remember being annoyed that Joker was to create Two-Face in the court scene in part 3, but instead Nolan wanted more Joker and so he had to wrap up the Dent storyline. You can't predict your star will die like Ledger did, but looking back I'd still have Dent not turn into Two Face until part 3. That will be Nolan's biggest flaw in the series. I will say though, after watching Spiderman 3 the year prior, Nolan's error was not nearly as bad as Rami's, Spiderman 3 was just horrible.
O.G A.Geesta'z:
so there is not gonna be a part 4 at all right?
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: Dat Boy A.G on July 24, 2012, 05:50:37 PM ---so there is not gonna be a part 4 at all right?
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not after that shooting
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