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The official The Dark Knight Rises thread...
Shallow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 25, 2011, 09:04:44 AM ---
See, my thinking is you do something like the Star Wars two trilogies. As everyone can see, both are made is different eras, have different feels and by all means are different stories, but are connected still. I think the origin that Nolan has created is one of the best stories of Batman, comic, movie or cartoon. I would like to see some continuity in the future, as this series was not made to end in 3 movies. Nolan is telling a story of young Batman, and the comic goes all the way until Bruce Wayne's death and older age. So someone can pick up the next Batman and do a Robin trilogy, and it doesn't have to be in Nolan's world. Batman today is the same continuity as Batman Year One, but it is not the same. Different authors, different focuses, and the past Batman's are only used as reference. At the same time, it would be foolish to ignore the Nolan trilogy, and if the right director handles the next trilogy then Robin can work. An older Batman can't handle being Batman, he needs Robin's help. With Jason Todd being a darker character anyways, and you can focus on Dick Grayson's rebellion and transformation into Knightwing, Robin can work in the Nolan world. But Nolan might not be able to see it, that's why they should hire me... lol.
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I have no problem with your idea. A 3 Robins trilogy would be fine, and I guess I see what you mean. You establish character's like Joker, Two Face, and Bane. You establish the characters now and then bring them back in the future trilogy and you could tell a great story.
It starts off with a Robin Begins type story of Bruce finding Dick Grayson. The second film is Dick wanting to break off and Batman turning to a new Robin, Jason Todd who by the end of it ends up killed by the Joker, maybe because of something Nightwing did wrong. In the third film still blaming himself, and Grayson, Batman is more of a recluse, even almost kills the Joker. Off his game Bane gets the better of him and leaves him paralyzed. Dick takes over as Batman and trains Tim Drake against Bruce's wishes.
The hard part would be to find 3 consecutive reasons for a young boy to be taken in as an heir to the cowl. And three films in a row of a kid becoming Robin would be tedious. So I wouldn't have all three focus on it. Grayson story is expressed in full form. Todd's would be more based on just training and then he gets killed before Batman ever deems him street ready. Maybe he goes out on his own after advice from Dick who tells him to take matters into his own hands. And Drake wouldn't show up until the second half of the third film and his training is just beginning as the film ends.
the second two origins of the Robin's would have to differ from the comics though.
DEKO:
New super rumor:
Robin Williams is no stranger to Batman movies. He was offered the role of The Joker back in Tim Burton's Batman, only to have it taken away when Jack Nicholson expressed interest. Then he was offered the role of The Riddler in Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever, but they ended up giving it to Jim Carrey instead. Since then, Robin Williams has been lobbying to get cast in one of Christopher Nolan's Batman films — is his wish about to be granted?
RW as Strange? Hmm...January 28, 2011 2:22 pm via Twitter for BlackBerryu00ae
The tweet above from BOF's Jett peaked my interest this morning. Jett has mentioned Robin Williams before on his BOF message board and Facebook page... could he be onto something? The last time Jett dropped hints about possible The Dark Knight Rises villains was when he kept mentioning Bane on his message board, and we know how that turned out. I've also heard that Hugo Strange would be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises, though my source was wrong with his casting. So what do you guys think? Wild speculation, or may Jett be onto something here? I hope Robin Williams gets a role no matter what it is. He's been very vocal about being a Batman fan, and it's a shame that he's been burned so many times in the past. Sound off in the comments and let me know what you think!
Source: http://batman-news.com/2011/01/28/robin-williams-as-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/
Chamillitary Click:
They should make this movie four hours long. Because the general public holds The Dark Knight so much higher then Batman Begins it's unreal lol. Batman Begins was great and most people agree with that, but it's just lucky it came before The Joker's role lol.
Honestly, if Ledger was still alive, I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan used him for like half of the next movie lol.
I'm sure Nolan is going to give us a cinematic masterpiece, but I know personally & as for the general public, the Joker's performance as a villain was so great, these new ones have to bring their A-game & even then I doubt it considering they don't have that evil, twisted personality.
JohnnyL:
--- Quote from: DEKO on January 29, 2011, 10:04:25 AM ---New super rumor:
Robin Williams is no stranger to Batman movies. He was offered the role of The Joker back in Tim Burton's Batman, only to have it taken away when Jack Nicholson expressed interest. Then he was offered the role of The Riddler in Joel Schumacher's Batman Forever, but they ended up giving it to Jim Carrey instead. Since then, Robin Williams has been lobbying to get cast in one of Christopher Nolan's Batman films — is his wish about to be granted?
RW as Strange? Hmm...January 28, 2011 2:22 pm via Twitter for BlackBerryu00ae
The tweet above from BOF's Jett peaked my interest this morning. Jett has mentioned Robin Williams before on his BOF message board and Facebook page... could he be onto something? The last time Jett dropped hints about possible The Dark Knight Rises villains was when he kept mentioning Bane on his message board, and we know how that turned out. I've also heard that Hugo Strange would be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises, though my source was wrong with his casting. So what do you guys think? Wild speculation, or may Jett be onto something here? I hope Robin Williams gets a role no matter what it is. He's been very vocal about being a Batman fan, and it's a shame that he's been burned so many times in the past. Sound off in the comments and let me know what you think!
Source: http://batman-news.com/2011/01/28/robin-williams-as-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/
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Of course it's impossible to say for sure at this point, but I think there could be something to this. There were a lot of rumors not long ago about "The Dark Knight Rises" using some of the ideas from the "Prey" storyline from the "Legends of the Dark Knight" comics. The main villain in that storyline was Hugo Strange. It also involved the police trying to track down a fugitive Batman, and that's pretty much the situation at the end of "The Dark Knight." The "Prey" storyline also features Catwoman which could be another hint that Hugo Strange and/or the "Prey" storyline may be used (at least in part). Of course that could also just be a coincidence and this could all turn out to be another false rumor.
MontrealCity's Most:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 29, 2011, 10:45:24 AM ---They should make this movie four hours long. Because the general public holds The Dark Knight so much higher then Batman Begins it's unreal lol. Batman Begins was great and most people agree with that, but it's just lucky it came before The Joker's role lol.
Honestly, if Ledger was still alive, I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan used him for like half of the next movie lol.
I'm sure Nolan is going to give us a cinematic masterpiece, but I know personally & as for the general public, the Joker's performance as a villain was so great, these new ones have to bring their A-game & even then I doubt it considering they don't have that evil, twisted personality.
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I read somewhere that Joker was going to be the Main vilain in the next one.
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