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was the NBA stronger 20 years ago or weaker?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: IRAN iz Gangsta! on January 21, 2011, 12:11:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 20, 2011, 05:21:49 PM ---Bill Simmons is a fucking genius. 8)
& pshhhhhhh, Stockton. He couldn't guard Russell Westbrook, let alone Rondo, Rose & Deron Williams.
You guys are arguing whose got more legends. Obviously a team who all members (besides Shaq) are retired is going to have more legends. Most of the players on todays team aren't even 28 yet, haven't won rings because the league is so spread out outside of like three teams who have a legitimate chance of winning. Fuck all that "legacy" shit, we simply could not be guarded.
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Solid response.
IRAN iz Gangsta!:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2011, 12:12:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: IRAN iz Gangsta! on January 21, 2011, 12:11:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 20, 2011, 05:21:49 PM ---Bill Simmons is a fucking genius. 8)
& pshhhhhhh, Stockton. He couldn't guard Russell Westbrook, let alone Rondo, Rose & Deron Williams.
You guys are arguing whose got more legends. Obviously a team who all members (besides Shaq) are retired is going to have more legends. Most of the players on todays team aren't even 28 yet, haven't won rings because the league is so spread out outside of like three teams who have a legitimate chance of winning. Fuck all that "legacy" shit, we simply could not be guarded.
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Solid response.
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how old are? the thing is everyone thinks their generation is better and they dont wanna believe it was better back in the day. I was like that in 90s when people said 80s were better but now that im older i dont disagree....
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: IRAN iz Gangsta! on January 21, 2011, 03:21:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2011, 12:12:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: IRAN iz Gangsta! on January 21, 2011, 12:11:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 20, 2011, 05:21:49 PM ---Bill Simmons is a fucking genius. 8)
& pshhhhhhh, Stockton. He couldn't guard Russell Westbrook, let alone Rondo, Rose & Deron Williams.
You guys are arguing whose got more legends. Obviously a team who all members (besides Shaq) are retired is going to have more legends. Most of the players on todays team aren't even 28 yet, haven't won rings because the league is so spread out outside of like three teams who have a legitimate chance of winning. Fuck all that "legacy" shit, we simply could not be guarded.
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:sleep:
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Solid response.
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how old are? the thing is everyone thinks their generation is better and they dont wanna believe it was better back in the day. I was like that in 90s when people said 80s were better but now that im older i dont disagree....
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I just want to know, what are we comparing. Because I hear 20 years ago, and 20 years ago exactly the NBA sucked. It was Michael Jordan, the Bulls and a bunch of scrub teams for MJ to beat on. The 90-91 season was not exactly the shinning example of strong basketball. Most the players were aging and getting ready to retire. Were the 80's better than today, absolutely. I started watching basketball in the 80's, loved every minute of it. Was it better in the 90's, absolutely, once those great draft classes in the early 90's started getting in the league, Alonzo, Shaq, Weber, Hardaway, I can go on and on. But 20 years ago, the 90-91 season, was it better than the 2010-2011, I want you to honestly look at these seasons and tell me honestly that the 1990-1991 season was better than the 2010-2011 season. Using the Sports Guy's roster (since the all-star game is not played yet) lets compare using all star teams.
90-91 all stars:
East: West:
G Michael Jordan G Magic Johnson
G Joe Dumars G Kevin Johnson
F Charles Barkley F Chris Mullin
F Bernard King F Karl Malone
C Patrick Ewing C David Robinson
Reserves Reserves
F/G Dominique Wilkins F James Worthy
F/G Ricky Pierce F/G Clyde Drexler
G Hersey Hawkins (alternative for Larry Bird) C Kevin Duckworth
F/C Kevin McHale F/C Tom Chambers
C Brad Daugherty G Terry Porter
G Alvin Robertson G Tim Hardaway
C Robert Parish G John Stockton
F Larry Bird (DNP)
F Isiah Thomas (DNP)
10-11 all stars:
East:
G Derrick Rose G Chris Paul
G Dwayne Wade G Kobe Bryant
F LeBron James F Kevin Durant
F Amare Stoudemire F Carmelo Anthony
C Dwight Howard C Pau Gasol
Reserves Reserves
F Kevin Garrent F Dirk Nowitzki
F Paul Pierce F Manu Ginobili
G Rajon Rondo G Russell Westbrook
F Chris Bosh G Deron Williams
C Al Horford F Kevin Love
G Joe Johnson F Blake Griffin
G Raymond Felton F/C Tim Duncan
Which all star teams do you think are deep, look at their season of that year.
IRAN iz Gangsta!:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 21, 2011, 04:55:23 PM ---
I just want to know, what are we comparing. Because I hear 20 years ago, and 20 years ago exactly the NBA sucked. It was Michael Jordan, the Bulls and a bunch of scrub teams for MJ to beat on. The 90-91 season was not exactly the shinning example of strong basketball.
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true 90-91 wasnt the best year and by 20 years ago i assumed he meant the old generation, so really im comparing 80s to 96
97 was the half season where they were on strike and after that it started going down
im just not impressed with the guys today...u literally have guys that do not shoot the ball...clock is running out and they're just holding the ball to give to that one shooter on the team...i know its part of the game plan and he's prob listening to the coach but thats super lame...to me its lame that we actually have so called professional basketball players who cant shoot jump shots
Tha A:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on January 21, 2011, 04:55:23 PM ---
I just want to know, what are we comparing. Because I hear 20 years ago, and 20 years ago exactly the NBA sucked. It was Michael Jordan, the Bulls and a bunch of scrub teams for MJ to beat on. The 90-91 season was not exactly the shinning example of strong basketball. Most the players were aging and getting ready to retire. Were the 80's better than today, absolutely. I started watching basketball in the 80's, loved every minute of it. Was it better in the 90's, absolutely, once those great draft classes in the early 90's started getting in the league, Alonzo, Shaq, Weber, Hardaway, I can go on and on. But 20 years ago, the 90-91 season, was it better than the 2010-2011, I want you to honestly look at these seasons and tell me honestly that the 1990-1991 season was better than the 2010-2011 season.
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no doubt, the, let's call it, years of transition between the 80's era and the 90's era were weak.
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 20, 2011, 05:21:49 PM ---Bill Simmons is a fucking genius. 8)
& pshhhhhhh, Stockton. He couldn't guard Russell Westbrook, let alone Rondo, Rose & Deron Williams.
You guys are arguing whose got more legends. Obviously a team who all members (besides Shaq) are retired is going to have more legends. Most of the players on todays team aren't even 28 yet, haven't won rings because the league is so spread out outside of like three teams who have a legitimate chance of winning. Fuck all that "legacy" shit, we simply could not be guarded.
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I'm not arguing whose got more legends, some of the players playing today are my all time favorites, and legends to be no doubt, I'm judging talent, time and season wise. if we're talking about the 90/91 season or a few season that preceded or succeed that one, today wins, now against 80's or the 90's primes, I don't think so. I don't give a damn about legacy here, and who is "we"? do you play in the nba right now? did I play 20 years ago? or am I not alive today and don't belong in the present? I was a kid in the 80's and early 90's, of course I saw some of the major games, players and so on, again, on tape or whatever, right now, so I can have a better judgment now that I have more knowledge. and I still enjoy just as much and give credit to the players right now excluding the lack of fundamentals and defensive awareness and not wanting to improve, wanting to be flashy as oppose to effective, but hey, that's the game right now, what can we do. it's really the organization, the bullshit rules, the stealing, the star treatment, the poor refs, the lack of passion and of aggressivity, some plays not being called as irregular too many times, and so on, is what I can't cope with, I still watch it though, in terms of overall talent the nba is really good right now.
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