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was the NBA stronger 20 years ago or weaker?

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Chamillitary Click:
All I know is if you ask someone from the ages of 13-20, he will tell you that Kobe is the best. You ask someone from 22-32 he'll tell you Jordan was the best & you ask anyone older then that, they'll tell you Bird or Magic were the best.

Everyone wants to hold the title to say they saw the best player ever.

You have to look at the facts though. 20+ years ago, kids didn't have the work ethic of today. These kids are hitting the gym at the ages of 12-13.

LeBron is 6'8'', 250, brolic as fuck & can dribble & pass & play the PG position better then most PG's lol. Never been seen in the NBA before (You can make the argument of Magic) & to me that's not a coincidence, it's just the direction the game is headed. 6'8'' players 20+ years ago were clumsy, centers; not even PFs lol.

OG Hack Wilson:
the thing with Magic is he could EVER average in the upper 20's in points   - not that he needed to but LEbron can if he needs to

Tha A:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2011, 07:54:27 PM ---All I know is if you ask someone from the ages of 13-20, he will tell you that Kobe is the best. You ask someone from 22-32 he'll tell you Jordan was the best & you ask anyone older then that, they'll tell you Bird or Magic were the best.

Everyone wants to hold the title to say they saw the best player ever.


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I know plenty of people under 20 that say jordan's the best, people over 20 that say kobe's the best and even under 20 that say bird's the best. I saw all three of them, plus more and I can't say who's the best ever, I know I got players from today in my all time top.


--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2011, 07:54:27 PM ---You have to look at the facts though. 20+ years ago, kids didn't have theork ethic of today. These kids are hitting the gym at the ages of 12-13.

LeBron is 6'8'', 250, brolic as fuck & can dribble & pass & play the PG position better then most PG's lol. Never been seen in the NBA before (You can make the argument of Magic) & to me that's not a coincidence, it's just the direction the game is headed. 6'8'' players 20+ years ago were clumsy, centers; not even PFs lol.

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I'm looking at the facts, I actually saw all these players play. yeah they're hitting the gym more, different times, different ethics, and don't act like back then they didn't work since high school, college or before lmao, if you brought back players from the 80's they would be all doing that on a regular basis, more players and more often. don't give me all that because it's not like top players nowadays are more athletic than the top from back then, the human body can't even develop that much in so little, it's true that the average player, more players, hit the gym more than back then, on the other hand you can also say they don't got the same fundamentals, basketball work ethic or competitiveness, even skill gets lost with the work they wanna put only in athleticism, so they can be seen as future players and can have all the highlights, trying to work on the skill later, most of the times that don't happen though, also all the glitter and flash they wanna show many times takes away from the rest. it's easier to develop into a great player a guy with average skill but great athleticism than a guy with good skill but no athleticism, no doubt, but that don't happen in most of the cases, the nba was/is turning shitty sometimes also because of that, the best is a combination of both of course.

lebron is a freak of nature with great skill, he would be great and never seen before no matter what era he played on, you're giving me one example. 6'8'' players 20 years ago were clumsy? don't give me that bullshit, it's the 80's/90's not the 50/60's, karl malone clumsy? dominique? magic? barkley? hakeem? bird? and even if centers or even pfs were clumsy they would actually get the job done, unlike today, where you can have them doing crossovers or shooting 3's and don't even come close to the inside players, and inside game, from back then, that's why the league don't even got a handful of good centers.

I don't even like to look at the past, except for when the knicks were winning and in the playoffs lol, and I don't give a damn about all that nostalgia stuff, yeah I got a picture of an old time celtics team, just because they were an amazing team with amazing players playing together, putting aside the rest, just wanting to win.

Tha A:

--- Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 21, 2011, 08:01:43 PM ---the thing with Magic is he could EVER average in the upper 20's in points   - not that he needed to but LEbron can if he needs to

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people like to compare them because they were/are big and can, or in magic's case he really played, point, but they're not all that similar, like people say they are, in their game. lebron can do that, no doubt, magic could average 13 apg though. magic was a pure pg, lebron can do it also but he's, you can call him, more of a point foward.

Chamillitary Click:
All those 6'8'' people you named (outside of Magic, who I gave credit to), could not dribble like half as good as LeBron. They were athletic, but not LeBron. & you only mentioned the stars, not every team had a star. That's what separated the stars from the average player that most teams had, the athleticism.

& naturally, players will be better if they start conditioning themselves at a younger age.

& then you just started talking about "playing as a team". I'm not getting into the chemistry of this. I'm just saying todays all-stars would win this game.

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