King Tee - Thy Kingdom Comes - underrated classic!!

[Desert Lord]

he pushed it back because the source shitted on it....then he quickly went into his gangsta rap is dead phase.

Wasn't it the oposite, he said fuck gangsta rap after leaving death row, then went back to it after all his original shit failed at The Math. Either way, I thought this album would have been a Westcoast classic, but you gotta keep in mind, it was NOT the version that leaked. The actual album didn't have like any of the last 8-10 tracks on that leaked version, a lot of which were Dre productions. So when I speak of and think of that album, I always eliminate those last bunch of songs. Also, you guys gotta realize, this was NEVER released! A bunch of shitty bootlegs came out with songs from this, and he had an album with a bunch of these tracks on there, but Thy Kingdom Come was never officially released, so in that sense, the album never really happened. It's like calling The Reformation a calssic when it was never even released, but we have almost all the songs intended for it.

the release seems legit to me.

i think King T was just calling it a bootleg in an interview to try to save face

i also heard that source story...man, fuck the source!
so, if the "original album" had a completly different tracklist, than these bootlegs...what tracks was originally on it?

dre even says i think on his after,ath compilation "gagnsta rap is dead" if i remember correctly then when everything besides eminem that he puts out flops he reverts back to chronic mode.

but the aftermath compilation wasn't completly gangsta-free..."been there, done that" wasn't really new shit..

well the message of the song was clear.
he was tired of gangsta rap. he already made that clear when he began working on helter skelter

yeah, you got that right...but on the other hand he never released any stuff that was so different from what he had done before. and there still was rbx, king tee on that album that gave the whole thing a gangstatouch.
i think the real reason for dre wanted to "quit" doing gangstarap was all the critisism from real streetcats that for faking...he saw his mask fall down

[Fraxxx]

I bought the album from a regular retail and not with the turkey but the skyline of LA on it. And it says The Kingdom Comes.

[s_dadry]

F'n classic!!

[soopa-man]

Dre was trying to deviate every thing Death Row at the time of '96, there were reasons Dre was hating on Gangsta Rap, THE SOURCE MAGAZINE AND EAST COAST RADIO, its been the brink of debate on West Coast artist from the beginning of time, THE SOURCE and Blaze, VIbe and all that other HIP HOP shit just wrote off every West Coast release, saying its full of gangsta and no lyrics, or no subject matter, radio DJs on the east FUNK FLEX hated on the lyrics and delivery of the artist (SNOOP and Cube, E-40) all this and West Coast radio was small at the time not powerful enough to really hold their own. they followed the East trends, but never their own, now im not saying they didnt play it, they just didnt back the artist as much as the east did BIG and every one else, Dre just read way too much in to those East Coast opinions...think back Cube should have been on some Eminem units sold shit, listen to those first 4 albums man, fucking introspective and creatively genious all after NWA it was only then that the East was kind of fucking with Cube then he starts rhyming over funk samples and totatlly they hate on Bootlegs & B-Sides ( a freaking comp, rating it as an album)
and shit on Lethal Injection, thats when you can see they were upset at the success of W.C. artist, because Kool G Rap hadnt gone GOld in years if not ever, and Cube was platinum out the gate...I remember alotta shit but West artist got way more hate then the South does now, and it wasnt whispered either, that was the crazy part

[Sir Petey]

in the same issue they gave dre 3 mics for thy kingdom come they gave sugafrees street gospel 2 mics

[Dre-Day]

he pushed it back because the source shitted on it....then he quickly went into his gangsta rap is dead phase.

Wasn't it the oposite, he said fuck gangsta rap after leaving death row, then went back to it after all his original shit failed at The Math. Either way, I thought this album would have been a Westcoast classic, but you gotta keep in mind, it was NOT the version that leaked. The actual album didn't have like any of the last 8-10 tracks on that leaked version, a lot of which were Dre productions. So when I speak of and think of that album, I always eliminate those last bunch of songs. Also, you guys gotta realize, this was NEVER released! A bunch of shitty bootlegs came out with songs from this, and he had an album with a bunch of these tracks on there, but Thy Kingdom Come was never officially released, so in that sense, the album never really happened. It's like calling The Reformation a calssic when it was never even released, but we have almost all the songs intended for it.

the release seems legit to me.

i think King T was just calling it a bootleg in an interview to try to save face

i also heard that source story...man, fuck the source!
so, if the "original album" had a completly different tracklist, than these bootlegs...what tracks was originally on it?

dre even says i think on his after,ath compilation "gagnsta rap is dead" if i remember correctly then when everything besides eminem that he puts out flops he reverts back to chronic mode.

but the aftermath compilation wasn't completly gangsta-free..."been there, done that" wasn't really new shit..

well the message of the song was clear.
he was tired of gangsta rap. he already made that clear when he began working on helter skelter

yeah, you got that right...but on the other hand he never released any stuff that was so different from what he had done before. and there still was rbx, king tee on that album that gave the whole thing a gangstatouch.
i think the real reason for dre wanted to "quit" doing gangstarap was all the critisism from real streetcats that for faking...he saw his mask fall down

fair enough.

well i think he was tired of all the drama in the studio.

[MarshColin]

well i think he was tired of all the drama in the studio.

Ya, that obviously was the reason he left Death Row so it would only make sense that that would be a major reason for him calling gangsta rap dead. Once the Death Row situation faded he probably realized he could still do gangsta rap without all the studio drama. He probably also realized that he NEEDED to do gangsta rap because the other directions he was trying to go in weren't showing him much success.

[Desert Lord]

well i think he was tired of all the drama in the studio.

Ya, that obviously was the reason he left Death Row so it would only make sense that that would be a major reason for him calling gangsta rap dead. Once the Death Row situation faded he probably realized he could still do gangsta rap without all the studio drama. He probably also realized that he NEEDED to do gangsta rap because the other directions he was trying to go in weren't showing him much success.

what kind of other directions? you got an example?

[Sir Petey]

check out dr dre presents the aftermath...alot of shitty attempts at r and b on there.

thats one market dre cant crack...the r and b circuit. yeah he did michelle (20 years ago) and he had a hit with mjb but he dropped the ball with that envouge chick...

thats one thing id give timberland props for is being able to cross genres.

[Desert Lord]

check out dr dre presents the aftermath...alot of shitty attempts at r and b on there.

thats one market dre cant crack...the r and b circuit. yeah he did michelle (20 years ago) and he had a hit with mjb but he dropped the ball with that envouge chick...

thats one thing id give timberland props for is being able to cross genres.

yeah, but he also produced mary j a few years later...truth hurts, bilal...
he was always fuckin' with other genres...

[DTG Entertainment]

check out dr dre presents the aftermath...alot of shitty attempts at r and b on there.

thats one market dre cant crack...the r and b circuit. yeah he did michelle (20 years ago) and he had a hit with mjb but he dropped the ball with that envouge chick...

thats one thing id give timberland props for is being able to cross genres.

yeah, but he also produced mary j a few years later...truth hurts, bilal...
he was always fuckin' with other genres...

Yeah, but ummmm.....Truth Hurts.

[soopa-man]

on to subject from my other rant...this album has plenty for fans of west coast shit (Skweez YA BAlls, Its Ruff, Shake Da spot) and lyrics with that straight g-shit over top notch production (The Chron, Money & Speak On It) plenty of surprises (Wheres T?, 6nna Mornin', Reel Raw & THe Original) have some thing different to offer from the albums feel while some are out dated (Step On BY, Got It Locked, even Lets Make A V, doesnt fit the over all vibe of the album but sits in nicely along the aforementioned)
if you add dope tracks he dropped while on Aftermath (Str8 Gone, I Dont Wanna Die & Quiet As Kept) make the revisit worth while aswell

[BIGWORM]

"Got It Locked" was the first single & Video and it flopped hard.

I always thought it was record label politics that King Tee was still signed with RCA and the would not let him release the AFTERMATH album even though he changed his name to "King T" for "Thy Kingdom Come".

[Desert Lord]

in the same issue they gave dre 3 mics for thy kingdom come they gave sugafrees street gospel 2 mics

  bitches!

[MarshColin]

well i think he was tired of all the drama in the studio.

Ya, that obviously was the reason he left Death Row so it would only make sense that that would be a major reason for him calling gangsta rap dead. Once the Death Row situation faded he probably realized he could still do gangsta rap without all the studio drama. He probably also realized that he NEEDED to do gangsta rap because the other directions he was trying to go in weren't showing him much success.

what kind of other directions? you got an example?

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