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Isn't this common knowledge?
Quote from: KyleEshna on February 13, 2011, 10:46:04 PMIsn't this common knowledge?Yes I would say it is. ! Redundant thread
I know y'all probably thinking "not another thread" lol but I think this one will be unique and may create conversationThe topic of this thread, it does not matter whether we like these songs. My opinion, nor any of yours matters in that sense. I think one thing we can all agree on is "Kush" is Dre's attempt at "satisfying" his loyal fan base, those who loved "2001" and what has become what we know as west coast music. Again, whether or not you think its a good attempt doesn't matter; as long as you acknowledge that's an attempt."I Need a Doctor" is a typical 2011 single, flavor of the month beat and female chorus. This of course is the mainstream single. Again, whether or not you like the track doesn't matter, we can all acknowledge it's similar to a lot of recent hits by such artists as B.o.B., T.I., Eminem, Diddy, Lupe Fiasco and others (same producer, different catchy female hook).Kush was released first and I Need A Doctor 2nd. I often see a trend here and wonder if you guys see the same thing. Artists who are used to and plan on selling records such as Dr. Dre (discredit underground artists) often follow this trend. First single, ("street single") release something you believe your loyal fan base will love. Dr. Dre (and everyone involved) believe his loyal fan base will LOVE "Kush" and get super excited about his record; excited to the point where they're minds are made up that they're going to buy the album when it comes out, before being released. (Bare with me on this because Detox is such a highly anticipated album, many made up there mind 10 years ago they'd purchased it, but this example works for most mainstream artists and that specific point fits them more than it does Dr. Dre right now).Second, you release the "official single" and its something that's a lot more radio friendly and mainstream (i.e. "i need a doctor"). This is too attract "fair weather" fans.This way, on release of the "street single", it holds a similar sound to previous records which satisfied loyal fan bases. Loyal fan bases matter a lot more than "fair weather" fans because they're the group of fans that always purchase there favorite artists album. But "fair weather" fans help bring the album over the top. For a mainstream artist, in most cases, releasing singles that just satisfy your loyal fan bases won't propel your sales to new heights. You satisfy them first (Kush) to get them excited about your new album. Once they're on board, bring on the the 2nd single to attract new fans ("I need a doctor:). = they ALL buy your album, huge success.But this trend happens with a lot of mainstream artists..Think Snoop Dogg releasing "Vato" first, T.I. releasing "No Matter What", Eminem releasing "Not Afraid", (all attempts at satisfying loyal fan bases before bringing on such singles as "Love the Way you Lie", "Whatever U Like", etc). There are millions of examples of this happening (loyal fan base single first, fair weather single second), but I just named a few.Anyone else see it?
i think you're on point.but the loyal fans wanted a Dre produced single
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 14, 2011, 02:40:44 AMi think you're on point.but the loyal fans wanted a Dre produced single
You expect me to download an album that isn't real? Sorry, but I can't sign this.
i think you're on point.but the loyal fans wanted good music as singles rather than cynical attempts at appealing to specific sectors of the target demographic.
Dre fucked himself by making the fans wait 10 years for an album.