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Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 14, 2011, 02:00:37 AMQuote from: DjKeyz on February 14, 2011, 01:50:30 AMLook out the performance... he just rap the last verse of INAD and then walkin offstage. That was pretty wack & a little bitch move for a first TV apparence since 10 years for a legend like him...I really think that Detox shit is not ready to smash the world right now, they lost they chance to buzz right now... INAD is not so high on the chart so what the fuck are they gonna do right now ?going on a vacation to HawaiiYou mean he went on a vaction to perform a verse on the grammies?
Quote from: DjKeyz on February 14, 2011, 01:50:30 AMLook out the performance... he just rap the last verse of INAD and then walkin offstage. That was pretty wack & a little bitch move for a first TV apparence since 10 years for a legend like him...I really think that Detox shit is not ready to smash the world right now, they lost they chance to buzz right now... INAD is not so high on the chart so what the fuck are they gonna do right now ?going on a vacation to Hawaii
Look out the performance... he just rap the last verse of INAD and then walkin offstage. That was pretty wack & a little bitch move for a first TV apparence since 10 years for a legend like him...I really think that Detox shit is not ready to smash the world right now, they lost they chance to buzz right now... INAD is not so high on the chart so what the fuck are they gonna do right now ?
Quote from: Anunikke: www.spam on February 14, 2011, 07:21:13 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on February 14, 2011, 02:00:37 AMQuote from: DjKeyz on February 14, 2011, 01:50:30 AMLook out the performance... he just rap the last verse of INAD and then walkin offstage. That was pretty wack & a little bitch move for a first TV apparence since 10 years for a legend like him...I really think that Detox shit is not ready to smash the world right now, they lost they chance to buzz right now... INAD is not so high on the chart so what the fuck are they gonna do right now ?going on a vacation to HawaiiYou mean he went on a vaction to perform a verse on the grammies?lol, DjKeyz basically asked what's next
Maybe I have no idea how the industry works because unlike a lot of you I don't have a Music Management degree, but having said that...isn't what's important is to track INAD's commercial success when Interscope is NOT pumping hella promo dollars into it? In other words, a successful single takes on a life of its own after the big upfront push and is able to stand on its own two legs. I think it's silly to say INAD is a success after last night's performance. What's important is to see how it does next week and maybe the week after that to see if it still has "legs."You can keep blowing air into the balloon, but what I think they want to see is for the balloon to stay inflated even after they've stopped blowing air into it.
Quote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on February 14, 2011, 10:26:46 AMMaybe I have no idea how the industry works because unlike a lot of you I don't have a Music Management degree, but having said that...isn't what's important is to track INAD's commercial success when Interscope is NOT pumping hella promo dollars into it? In other words, a successful single takes on a life of its own after the big upfront push and is able to stand on its own two legs. I think it's silly to say INAD is a success after last night's performance. What's important is to see how it does next week and maybe the week after that to see if it still has "legs."You can keep blowing air into the balloon, but what I think they want to see is for the balloon to stay inflated even after they've stopped blowing air into it. Interscope wasn't pumping hella promo dollars into it. It was a Grammy performance. Promotion creates awareness. It doesn't necessarily generate a hit. If a song has no "legs" then it's a waste anyway. If Interscope pumps dollars into the promotional budget, they have to make it back for the record to be successful. If the record can't survive on its own, it's done anyway. Bottom line. What's silly is to keep coming up with conspiracy theories as to why music you don't like is succesful when the evidence is right in front of you. Don't need a Music Management degree. Just a little common sense.
Number 2 on itunes. I dont think he lost his chance to get buzz..
I buy this, but there is still a conspiracy in a sense. Only a certain type of music is going to get promoted and even get a chance at awareness.
Ask Kanye how many times he got rejected and turned away before a label would take a chance on his music.
Quote from: THE RAPTURE on February 14, 2011, 11:55:56 AMI buy this, but there is still a conspiracy in a sense. Only a certain type of music is going to get promoted and even get a chance at awareness. I don't really feel there is much of a conspiracy as everyone wants to believe. There is unquestionably a great deal of politics and favoritism in the music business but such is the case in any billion-dollar industry. The labels want to push artists, groups, acts, singles, with some level of "buzz" to them. The less money they invest in "making" someone a star, the more profit they take in. I think The Game is a good example of the point I'm trying to get across. He was basically the closest thing to a traditional gangsta rapper to come along since the 90's. His ground work with Dre and Aftermath didn't get Interscope overly-excited. Once G-Unit put the stamp on him and the story was spun to include him being Dre's latest protege, the "guy who'll bring the N.W.A. style back", and a strong buzzworthy single finally got out there, he was pushed. It's not that musical content was so different from every other West Coast artist or rapper on the Aftermath roster, it was that everything fell into the right place. Even when Game basically fucked over Interscope's money by creating an "anti-G-Unit" movement during the time when they invested millions into a 50 Cent movie and soundtrack, they didn't toss him off the label. They moved him over to a different division. The likely reason was he was still too hot to risk losing to a rival major when they already built him up to such strong numbers on his debut. They kept him because he still had a strong enough buzz. The Illuminati theories and all this other bozo talk is goofy. The same people were in power at the record companies when N.W.A. was telling the cops to fuck off, Cube was making controversial comments about Jews, and Tupac / Death Row were doing their thing. Truth be told, these record labels love angry, outspoken rappers like Tupac because they give angst-ridden Junior High kids someone to emulate or relate to. The popular belief is that Jimmy Iovine sits around making all these decisions but I’d venture to guess that he doesn’t even hear most of this music until it’s close to being put out. I’d imagine he’s more of the “veto” guy. He’s got a huge staff of people that are making very good salaries who do all the research for them. Their job is to find out which artists are going to make the most return on the investment. Now, I think it safe to say that if they send certain songs out and the feedback ain’t coming back strong and these guys sign off to put more money into promoting them, their kids probably won’t be having a good Christmas, this year. Now, to me, if it’s my career being dependent on this, I’m not really too concerned about what region the music is coming from. If they got a mother fucker out in Kentucky with a solid buzz, I’ll take that.