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Infinite's views on Minstrel Shows
SO PRUP:
--- Quote from: SPICE TWO on March 09, 2011, 08:19:31 AM ---You people are all idiots if you think being apart of the working class is like slavery.
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Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: G-Bee on March 09, 2011, 08:14:45 AM ---Some interesting discussions going on over here. I'd like to give another perspective:
We're talking about slavery in the past, but don't most of us live in slavery now? Most people work at an office or whatever, five days a week, year after year. And still, to be able to afford a roof over your head, we have to loan money. So we are constantly in debt, and working for a boss to get by. That sounds like slavery to me, even though it's not as obvious as back then.
Oh, and here's an interesting thought from the movie "The Yes Men". Like Infinite said: Slaves are expensive. They require a roof over their head, they need to be fed, they need clothes, etc. So what do we do now? We outsource slavery! Our products are being made in sweatshops overseas, but hey, we don't do slavery anymore!
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The problem is most people live over their means (dont know the difference between WANT and NEED, or DESERVE TO HAVE and CAN ACTUALLY BUY) just like the state of California and the rest of our country. Cant pay for it? Fuck it, buy that 300 dollar phone anyway on a credit card! People are gullible as fuck. If the poor slobs weren't taking us down with em I wouldnt even care.
I get what ur sayin about the people at the bottom (certain workers) getting fucked over, but thats how a society works, theres different rungs on the ladder. If we were all truly equal, we wouldnt have much more than a pot to piss in.
Fraxxx:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on March 09, 2011, 10:06:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: G-Bee on March 09, 2011, 08:14:45 AM ---Some interesting discussions going on over here. I'd like to give another perspective:
We're talking about slavery in the past, but don't most of us live in slavery now? Most people work at an office or whatever, five days a week, year after year. And still, to be able to afford a roof over your head, we have to loan money. So we are constantly in debt, and working for a boss to get by. That sounds like slavery to me, even though it's not as obvious as back then.
Oh, and here's an interesting thought from the movie "The Yes Men". Like Infinite said: Slaves are expensive. They require a roof over their head, they need to be fed, they need clothes, etc. So what do we do now? We outsource slavery! Our products are being made in sweatshops overseas, but hey, we don't do slavery anymore!
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The problem is most people live over their means (dont know the difference between WANT and NEED, or DESERVE TO HAVE and CAN ACTUALLY BUY) just like the state of California and the rest of our country. Cant pay for it? Fuck it, buy that 300 dollar phone anyway on a credit card! People are gullible as fuck. If the poor slobs weren't taking us down with em I wouldnt even care.
I get what ur sayin about the people at the bottom (certain workers) getting fucked over, but thats how a society works, theres different rungs on the ladder. If we were all truly equal, we wouldnt have much more than a pot to piss in.
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Totally disagree! In 2007 over 80 million people didn't earn enough to make a living.
In 2005, the 300,000 richest Americans earned as much as the poorest 150 MILLION Americans. On average that's a 440 times higher income. Since 1980 that gap has doubled.
The total income increases but only the top percent has more money in their pockets, almost 90% suffer from an decrease of income. And still the rich even benefit from tax incentives.
That's NOT how it works, that's how most of the people with money and power want it. What's so sad about it is that too many which suffer from this trend let themselves be fooled by this fairy tale, the "American Dream".
Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: Fraxxx on March 10, 2011, 04:59:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on March 09, 2011, 10:06:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: G-Bee on March 09, 2011, 08:14:45 AM ---Some interesting discussions going on over here. I'd like to give another perspective:
We're talking about slavery in the past, but don't most of us live in slavery now? Most people work at an office or whatever, five days a week, year after year. And still, to be able to afford a roof over your head, we have to loan money. So we are constantly in debt, and working for a boss to get by. That sounds like slavery to me, even though it's not as obvious as back then.
Oh, and here's an interesting thought from the movie "The Yes Men". Like Infinite said: Slaves are expensive. They require a roof over their head, they need to be fed, they need clothes, etc. So what do we do now? We outsource slavery! Our products are being made in sweatshops overseas, but hey, we don't do slavery anymore!
--- End quote ---
The problem is most people live over their means (dont know the difference between WANT and NEED, or DESERVE TO HAVE and CAN ACTUALLY BUY) just like the state of California and the rest of our country. Cant pay for it? Fuck it, buy that 300 dollar phone anyway on a credit card! People are gullible as fuck. If the poor slobs weren't taking us down with em I wouldnt even care.
I get what ur sayin about the people at the bottom (certain workers) getting fucked over, but thats how a society works, theres different rungs on the ladder. If we were all truly equal, we wouldnt have much more than a pot to piss in.
--- End quote ---
Totally disagree! In 2007 over 80 million people didn't earn enough to make a living.
In 2005, the 300,000 richest Americans earned as much as the poorest 150 MILLION Americans. On average that's a 440 times higher income. Since 1980 that gap has doubled.
The total income increases but only the top percent has more money in their pockets, almost 90% suffer from an decrease of income. And still the rich even benefit from tax incentives.
That's NOT how it works, that's how most of the people with money and power want it. What's so sad about it is that too many which suffer from this trend let themselves be fooled by this fairy tale, the "American Dream".
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I agree with u that the gap is widening. We could point the finger at many things here. A tax code that keeps the rich happy, a growing underclass of people who are raised with no priority on education and learning language/real world social skills, a political system that does not initiate or allow for real change and doesnt have an intelligent enough voter base to see thru these political parties' BS, and growing reliance on govt services which drains states and local economies (which causes the need for more taxes). Look at California for example, you will find ALL of the things that I mentioned here currently crippling our state. The same people who complain of unemployment will vote to raise costs for businesses to protect our environment, well hate to break it to them but you cant have everything you want and sometimes picking a necessity over a want is tough.
My statement was aimed more at those who will complain about the "evil" corporations and how terrible they are and act like everyone should be equal no matter what. There has to be haves and have nots was my point.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on March 10, 2011, 11:55:46 AM ---
My statement was aimed more at those who will complain about the "evil" corporations and how terrible they are and act like everyone should be equal no matter what. There has to be haves and have nots was my point.
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Word.. if everyone was equal, then exchange would not be possible. We deal with each other because we exchange with each other, whether that be work, ideas, money, or anything, differences and inequalities create potential for exchange amongst human beings.
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