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Phil Jackson: "Kobe has patterned himself after Michael......he is not michael"
Sccit:
who gives a fuck, phil says something new every day. he has also gone on record to say that kobe is a greater scorer and better with the ball than jordan. kobe is currently doing it with much less than jordan ever had. he's playin with gasol as a second fiddle, while jordan had pippen for all his title runs. give kobe a sidekick like pippen and lakers win the last 6 titles LOL. also, like infinite mentioned, kobe's shooting percentage is only lower because he has more range. so in essence, this is a plus for kobe. the more range a player has, the lower his percentage is. mj had no three-ball, so he barely shot from outside, while kobe is a great pure shooter. naturally, players who make their living in or around the paint have a higher percentage. amir johnson and deandre jordan dont have a higher shooting percentage than kevin garnett and tim duncan because they're better, they have a higher percentage because they have less range, therefore attempt shots within a limited range. same could be said for the kobe/jordan argument. and kobe doesn't have a go-to move? psssh...turnaround fadeway from the corner, how many times have we seen kobe close games with that shot? come on, now, if thats not a go-to move, i dunno what is.
another argument people never mention is the difference in competition from wing players...jordan went through so many mediocre wings. jazz, bulls? come on...his greatest rival at shooting guard was clyde drexler lol. athleticism was not the same back then as it is nowadays. today, the league is dominated by perimeter players, whereas back in the day, there were no lebron's, wade's, melo's, durant's, etc, it was clyde drexler, michael jordan, hersey hawkins, and bryon russell..feel it?
OG Hack Wilson:
Jordan > Kobe
get over it jew
Shallow:
--- Quote from: r.i.p. лate dogg on March 16, 2011, 08:57:40 PM ---so you'll downplay him facing Wilt, Jerry West or Oscar's teams?
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I think the Celtics with out Russel beat the shit out of Lakers with out East and/or Wilt. This was a very stacked team. Not that Jordan's Bulls wasn't of course.
Let me just for the record say a few things I believe before this turns into a debate;
Russel was the most important person on any team in NBA history.
They would have won at least 9 rings with Larry instead of Russel, and 15 straight rings with Larry and Russel.
Larry would have had more rings than Magic is Kareem was never a Laker.
the NBA was more competitive in the 80s than it was in the 60s.
The 80s Bulls would have won a bunch in the 60s, but only if Russel's Celts didn't exist.
I don't think The 60s Celts could have had their way with the 80s Lakers like they did in the 60s
and only the 86 Celtics could have beaten the 60s Celtics. But Russel on the 80s Celtics couldn't beat Larry on the 60s Celtics.
and Larry did indeed walk on water once. I saw it.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: r.i.p. лate dogg on March 17, 2011, 10:44:33 AM ---Jordan > Kobe
get over it jew
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kobe's career is not done, cracker...stfu and stop fingerbanging yourself.
teecee:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on March 17, 2011, 02:41:17 AM ---who gives a fuck, phil says something new every day. he has also gone on record to say that kobe is a greater scorer and better with the ball than jordan. kobe is currently doing it with much less than jordan ever had. he's playin with gasol as a second fiddle, while jordan had pippen for all his title runs. give kobe a sidekick like pippen and lakers win the last 6 titles LOL. also, like infinite mentioned, kobe's shooting percentage is only lower because he has more range. so in essence, this is a plus for kobe. the more range a player has, the lower his percentage is. mj had no three-ball, so he barely shot from outside, while kobe is a great pure shooter. naturally, players who make their living in or around the paint have a higher percentage. amir johnson and deandre jordan dont have a higher shooting percentage than kevin garnett and tim duncan because they're better, they have a higher percentage because they have less range, therefore attempt shots within a limited range. same could be said for the kobe/jordan argument. and kobe doesn't have a go-to move? psssh...turnaround fadeway from the corner, how many times have we seen kobe close games with that shot? come on, now, if thats not a go-to move, i dunno what is.
another argument people never mention is the difference in competition from wing players...jordan went through so many mediocre wings. jazz, bulls? come on...his greatest rival at shooting guard was clyde drexler lol. athleticism was not the same back than as it is nowadays. today, the league is dominated by perimeter players, whereas back in the day, there were no lebron's, wade's, melo's, durant's, etc, it was clyde drexler, michael jordan, hersey hawkins, and bryon russell..feel it?
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It took you 3 days to come up with this? :(
two things in MJ's era- handchecks. HUGE post players who were physical.
Your shit is getting pathetic NIK.
HOwever, also pathetic is someone in this thread rating Garnett ahead of Kobe
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