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Phil Jackson: "Kobe has patterned himself after Michael......he is not michael"
teecee:
Futhermore, even if Kobe plays 5 more years, how exactly does he become a BETTER player than MJ? Cuz longevity doesn't = better. If its rings, its Russell. More rings than MJ would not make Kobe best ever.
Sccit:
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--- Quote from: NIKCC on March 17, 2011, 02:41:17 AM ---who gives a fuck, phil says something new every day. he has also gone on record to say that kobe is a greater scorer and better with the ball than jordan. kobe is currently doing it with much less than jordan ever had. he's playin with gasol as a second fiddle, while jordan had pippen for all his title runs. give kobe a sidekick like pippen and lakers win the last 6 titles LOL. also, like infinite mentioned, kobe's shooting percentage is only lower because he has more range. so in essence, this is a plus for kobe. the more range a player has, the lower his percentage is. mj had no three-ball, so he barely shot from outside, while kobe is a great pure shooter. naturally, players who make their living in or around the paint have a higher percentage. amir johnson and deandre jordan dont have a higher shooting percentage than kevin garnett and tim duncan because they're better, they have a higher percentage because they have less range, therefore attempt shots within a limited range. same could be said for the kobe/jordan argument. and kobe doesn't have a go-to move? psssh...turnaround fadeway from the corner, how many times have we seen kobe close games with that shot? come on, now, if thats not a go-to move, i dunno what is.
another argument people never mention is the difference in competition from wing players...jordan went through so many mediocre wings. jazz, bulls? come on...his greatest rival at shooting guard was clyde drexler lol. athleticism was not the same back than as it is nowadays. today, the league is dominated by perimeter players, whereas back in the day, there were no lebron's, wade's, melo's, durant's, etc, it was clyde drexler, michael jordan, hersey hawkins, and bryon russell..feel it?
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It took you 3 days to come up with this? :(
two things in MJ's era- handchecks. HUGE post players who were physical.
Your shit is getting pathetic NIK.
HOwever, also pathetic is someone in this thread rating Garnett ahead of Kobe
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one thing in kobe's era...zone defense. jordan played most of his ball against one defender. in todays game, they send a 2nd and even 3rd defender at kobe when he gets hot. zone rules changed the way superstars are double and triple teamed on the perimeter. jordan was playing amongst little scrubs who guarded him one-on-one most of the time...LOL. and i don't post here every day, dipshit, so no, it didn't take me three days, i responded as soon as i saw the thread. and stop making arguments against yourself, there were better bigs back in those days, true, but better PERIMETER players nowadays. now, basketball is a perimeter oriented game, whereas back in jordan's era, bigs runned the game, jordan was head-and-shoulders above the league as far as perimeter players went...honestly, the only pathetic thing is you coming in here with arguments that lack substance and try refuting my points with no basis whatsoever. step up your debating skills and argue my points without resorting to baseless claims.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: teecee on March 17, 2011, 07:55:01 PM ---Futhermore, even if Kobe plays 5 more years, how exactly does he become a BETTER player than MJ? Cuz longevity doesn't = better. If its rings, its Russell. More rings than MJ would not make Kobe best ever.
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LOL..when Kobe was in his physical prime, all the jordan nut huggers argued that kobe was as good as jordan as far as ability, but that he didn't have what it takes to lead his team. now that he's leading his teams to all these titles, the tune has changed...honestly, stfu, YOUR shit is getting pathetic.
Sccit:
In one of these videos, phil is quoted saying that kobe is better than jordan in terms of skill, and that the biggest advantage jordan had on kobe were the size of his hands...enjoy:
OG Jaydc:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on March 17, 2011, 08:03:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on March 17, 2011, 07:55:01 PM ---Futhermore, even if Kobe plays 5 more years, how exactly does he become a BETTER player than MJ? Cuz longevity doesn't = better. If its rings, its Russell. More rings than MJ would not make Kobe best ever.
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LOL..when Kobe was in his physical prime, all the jordan nut huggers argued that kobe was as good as jordan as far as ability, but that he didn't have what it takes to lead his team. now that he's leading his teams to all these titles, the tune has changed...honestly, stfu, YOUR shit is getting pathetic.
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Lol Kobe plays on a stacked team, his teams did nothing after shaq left and before gasol came. You just can't admit it because your a Kobe nut hugger
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