Alot of times California is too independent; like how come

[BiggBoogaBiff]

and I hate to sound as if I'm repeating something but how come Cube and Quik never had that type of relationship before where musically they were collaborating left and right.  How come Suge just didn't set up Death Row Records "like Mo Town" in 95' and why did this nigga have to be a part of the business side if I'm not mistaken all he did was roust Dr. Dre out of Jerry Heller's contract it's not like the nigga had a M.B.A in Business or anything.  


why didn't MC Ren ever get on the beginning stages of Lil' Jon's albums, you couldn't tell me if Ren was rappin' with that aggression he's known for over some of Jon's beats from back in tha day that that wouldn't have been heat.  How come Snoop and Dre still wanna act like they don't need some of that G Funk on their records (the REAL G Funk).  You can always count on Jay Z and Kanye West to have that Soulfulness (samples) in their music so why are you acting like Calvin is too good for Snoop Dogg, sorry 2 sound pressed lol but where's the GFunk experimentation at uknowwatimsayin, where's the beef.  But how come Entertainer Rappers like The New Boyz and all dem otha niggaz like that just don't all get together and carve out their own lane/niche' or is that not what y'all would like in Cali?


where's the market set up at.  i mean god damn the showmanship in tha Cali area is so wack and that's why the EAST stay winning.  On the New York side of Hip Hop they got everything on lock, everything.  They got the websites poppin (wshh, ahh, etc), they got the magazines (The Source, XXL, etc.), they got tha Television Channels on the right stations at the right times, they got tha award nominations on lockdown, i mean Cali has all this and that but ain't got shit to show for it.  Everything a Rap market would need is in California, what happened?


the right collaborators not hooking up before is what at this particular moment in time is gettin' me the most.  i finally heard that new Cube and Quik track and i'm like "ooh, finally.  why it take dis long" and i'm mad becuz i'm sittin' like "imagine what could've been?", not that the song it's self was a complete waste of time but it's like "come on son, yall niggaz r 15 years and a month too late, aww whatthafuck".  In 96' we could've got "Bow Down" and an Ice Cube EP/LP half of which would've been produced by DJ Quik.  I know niggaz had schedules to follow and shit and live real life everyday livez too but come son yall niggaz start at -2 for that one.


the West needs to strike gold when niggaz is hot and niggaz is poppin, clicc up blick up and mobb up altogether at once and do the shit.  like why isn't Snoop fuckin' wit YG Hootie and why ain't Fashawn doin' tracks wit WAX (DJ Skee's artist.  I couldn't tell u what they'd create together but i think it sounds good i haven't really heard shit from both).  Is Battlecat gonna be on Detox i mean what tha fuck, what about Soopafly?  Is Glasses Malone really just gonna keep fuckin' wit rappers from his circle like or is he gonna branch out there (and i ain't talkin about Ya Boy either) and make a move or two here n there (that Richie Rich collabo was somethin special) or is G. just gonna play his part.  Is Compton the official "South Bronx"?


there's some gluing and meshing and just alotta plain ol' not bein' ignorant that needs to go on out there.  Tha days of strickly sending tracks thru email to only certain people just need 2 stop, shit is fuckin' up tha game foreal foreal, it almost brings me back to what Buddens was sayin' about Rap not being like it was yesterday; tha niggaz today don't know who they need 2 be collaborating with and who they don't need 2 be collaborating with.  How come California Rappers never fully embraced 40 Glocc for what he did by punkin' rappers n shit.  He could've been the universal attack dog for Cali, i mean 40 Glocc had potential to be something unique.  I mean he's got alotta dead press now but when he was doing his thing it was a masterpiece, even tho running up on 1 or 2 niggaz with 9 or 10 niggaz witchu' isn't exactly Winning.  


is this conversation a decade or two too late?  becuz the way i see it, the earth's plates have shifted and it's created a window for Cali and the Westcoast to get on now and make the past really into an old story...  gangsta rap might not plague Cali like u think it does, some of the boom bap acoustic piano shit does sometimes but overall the game isn't dead out there, there's just no center to the kaleidoscope.  Like I always said, the Westcoast has always been bigger than California, i don't know why rappers still act like it aint.

[Russell Bell]

artists staying more "independent" of one another has hurt their sales but breeds individual music

[BiggBoogaBiff]

artists staying more "independent" of one another has hurt their sales but breeds individual music

there's definitely a few rappers in the way tho if u know wat i mean.  artists like Cube and Quik and Sir Jinx should collaborate from here on out as the home team [and that's just the old skool rappers].

[Russell Bell]

artists staying more "independent" of one another has hurt their sales but breeds individual music

there's definitely a few rappers in the way tho if u know wat i mean.  artists like Cube and Quik and Sir Jinx should collaborate from here on out as the home team [and that's just the old skool rappers].

yea you'd get a lotta good like the example you used (quik and kurupt did it and released a good product, brotha lynch could be working with x-raided, etc)

you'd also get 40 glocc and black eyed peas which wouldnt exactly be on my list of shit i wanna listen to

[DOGGSHIT]

I'm from LONG BEACH. Tha East don't stay winning to me. Some questions you have will never be answered, we always wonder tha same thing. We can't always have it our way, it ain't Burger King. But I understand how you feel

[GangstaBoogy]

I'm loving this post. 100. Everything you said is so real.

Especially the quik/cube part. Like geez dude why couldn't you too have worked together in your prime years?!

[Raje]

Surprisingly...this is some real shit. At the end of the day tho, you have to realize you're dealing with artists... I've dealt with alot of artists and everyone's in there own mental world. ( i call it LaLa Land) 

I've collaborated w/ alot of artists and the westcoast ones were by far the hardest to get a verse from.

[SO PRUP]

Surprisingly...this is some real shit. At the end of the day tho, you have to realize you're dealing with artists... I've dealt with alot of artists and everyone's in there own mental world. ( i call it LaLa Land) 

I've collaborated w/ alot of artists and the westcoast ones were by far the hardest to get a verse from.

Exactly, its hell trying to get these cats on tracks out here, I can get a verse from someone clear across the world that I've never met but I cant get a verse from someone I live across the street from and see everyday lol...

[MistaNova]

I've collaborated w/ alot of artists and the westcoast ones were by far the hardest to get a verse from.

That explains a lot.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

like how come there ain't a site out there broadcasting Kendrick Lamar live from The White House doing interviews with politicians and school teachers.  That same website can get a contract with CBS and do an Award Show/Talent Show for Hip Hop's regional leaders.  You'd figure with Hollywood over there y'all would have all of the attention in the world, most definitely more than New York City.   

[3rd Coast]

its legal shit they have to clear with their labels..quik will tell u its hell gettin bun,cube,jon b hell even bizzy on his album

as homeboys they will...off top..but its politics..

ex andre n big boi..

dre n big grew up together..they basically brothers..

y big boi couldnt have any songs with dre on it...? much money they made n the hits they got under their builts..n no dre on bigs solo...

labels r some hoes at times

[BiggBoogaBiff]

it's not even the label half the time tho, it's the people.  why can't somebody hire some Arab or some White kid and make a site like WSHH.  How come Dre or somebody with money make magazines that sell Nationwide like that one dude does in New Mexico with his magazines.  

How come you don't see Bishop Lamont protesting for some shit outside of the UN and streaming it live?  How come XZibit can't pull no strings at MTV (somewhere on the side) and make a new show again about something?  There's so much that CAN be done but artists are too lazy to do it and want everything handed to em it seems sometimes...


like my mane Juicy J say "i never sleep mane!", there's definitely more than a handful of people who need 2 take heed 2 that.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

How come some of the pornSTAR chicks were never frontline video girls 4 the more mainstream videos?  it just makes sense