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DOC is extremely overrated as a writer. How do you become a top tier lyricist by writing average lyrics for gangsta rappers?
Quote from: SPICE TWO on April 02, 2011, 12:47:22 PMDOC is extremely overrated as a writer. How do you become a top tier lyricist by writing average lyrics for gangsta rappers?its more then just the lyrics...he knows how to write a catchy hook and he structures the songs well.
probably because he wrote some of the biggest rap records that have ever charted...that would be my guess.the art has progressed since his heyday but it dont make his contribution any less relevant.didnt he write most of the blue carpet treatment?
being able to write songs and being a great lyricst are two totally different things.there are alot of dudes out there who can rap like a motherfucker but cant put together a good song/album for shit.
rap as far as i can tell your the only person in this thread that even used DOC and the word lyricist in the same sentence...If you read through this thread i said he can write his ass off and ill stand by that statement as hes penned many songs that we both know by heart im sure of it...your talking yourself into a corner just for the sake of arguing.
I implore you to go back and show me where i said he was a lyricist, especially in the modern sence of the word
...this guy has been on the scene with dre since 85 or some shit...AND he came out of texas, niggas was rapping HAT with CAT and shit like that back then. when you look at the progress doc is responsible for helping bring forth he deserves recognition for his song writing.
being a good song writer and a good lyricist is not the same thing.fifty cent is a good song writer but not a great lyricist
All DOC albums really flopped and dissapointed me. Hes supposed to be respected. IMO hes under average like RBX!
these guys were coming up in the south fam, there was no internet and radio stations were far and few inbetween that played rap...these guys would be years behind there east coast counterparts as far as styles and fashion trends hence the term bammer...a bammer is a country dude thats behind the times ussuallly pictured with a jeri curl and a zoot suit or some shit like that...then run dmc fresh fest would post up and cats would start rocking the different styles and wearing fila jumpsuits and what not...im rambling. what im trying to say for him to come from the fila fresh crews shit and flip it into some hard shit that would end up influencing the whole rap game as well as personify a whole coast for over a decade you gotta tip your hat to that guy.
thats what good song writing is...themes, catchy hooks, ad libs and overall songs structure etc.