Dawaun Parker said Kingdom Comes should've been a Dr. Dre / Jay-Z project

[TRG]

I think the mix of Dre/Just Blaze beats was dope. When it dropped i was surprised at how involved Dre was. Album is dope imo.

[GangstaBoogy]

Yeah this was a dope album

We owe jay-z a thank you card. His "30 something" remix gave us the first ice cube / dr dre collabo in almost 10 years (even if it was a mediocre remix)

[repthatwest]

kingdom come was shit.. had 3 or 4 good songs.. and the dre beats were beneath average!.. that shit + the shit hes been releasing for detox, makes dre a shadow of his former self..

i remember seeing this review: "He's grown up, alright. With the energy Jay brings to most of these tracks, you'd think 30 was the new 60".. which pretty much sums up jay z's music for the past 6 years..

[Dre-Day]

He's just said that on twitter 5 minutes ago... deleted now  

lol he seems to be a fool on twitter

And too add to this thread....around the time Kingdom Come dropped...Dre was starting to have doubts about Detox...so he gave most of the beats to other artists...them 4 beats he gave Jay-z for Kingdom Come were on point.....Dre shoulda dropped Detox a month later imo. He had just did 50 album...Games album...Kingdom Come was the icing on the cake....had we heard Detox back then, I know none of us would have been dissapointed at all. Dre was on a roll. He should have took his chances

i'm sure some would be disappointed, as there is always something to bitch about

Tooken from entertainment weekly website:

''It's more in the vein of The Black Album than The Blueprint,'' he says. ''I've been experimenting with things, different types of music.'' In addition to Timbaland, Jay-Z has called on the production skills of Kanye West and Dr. Dre. He also hopes to reteam with Rick Rubin. ''Oh, and actually, Chris Martin produced a track on there,'' he adds casually. Yes, Coldplay's Chris Martin. ''We met at a charity dinner and just really kept in touch. He sent me these beautiful chords for this song called 'Beach Chair.' I had Dre put some drums on it. It's really, really incredible.''


I didn't know Dre did the drums on Beach Chair?

yeah i think he did. i'm sure it's listed in the credits

ain't that the same time around the death of his son?

no that was in 2008

[wcsoldier]

Album was very weak imo ... lyrics wise Jay had pretty nothing much to say besides " the King is back" , "I'm hip hop savior", the "MJ of Hip hop" , his flow was poor aswell , Dre beats were nothing special ... and Dre mixing didn't prevent some of Just Blaazy beats to sound terrible when you play them loud in good system

[Action!]

Album was very weak imo ... lyrics wise Jay had pretty nothing much to say besides " the King is back" , "I'm hip hop savior", the "MJ of Hip hop" , his flow was poor aswell , Dre beats were nothing special ... and Dre mixing didn't prevent some of Just Blaazy beats to sound terrible when you play them loud in good system

lost ones?  minority report? beach chairs?  you listening right?

[GangstaBoogy]

Jay showing off on his albums bothers a lot of people but I don't mind. Atleast we know he actually has the shit he brags about unlike all these new dudes who pop up rapping about bentleys and poppin bottles like they're boss

But look at a song like kingdom come where he ended all 3 verses with superhero references or trouble where he cleverly is saying 'you can take the boy out the hood but...' shits dope

Lost ones and trouble are the best dre beats on the album. Is it me or did ne-yo kill jay on minority report? Lol dead serious tho

[Sir Petey]

the intro to kingdom come was ill...he shit on game hard.

[D-e-f-]

I still love that bass line on 30 something like nothing else ...

that bass was sort of the last remnant of the 2001 sound

[dubsmith_nz]

Lost ones and trouble are the best dre beats on the album. Is it me or did ne-yo kill jay on minority report? Lol dead serious tho

Ne-Yo was getting his Mary J on on that track. Trouble was dope, I always saw it as Dres impression of a Timbaland style beat for some reason, they shoulda dropped that for the clubs. "Lose Ones" is my shit though