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We Should Cut Special Education

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Russell Bell:

--- Quote from: "Supernatural" Sikotic on June 23, 2011, 11:58:56 AM ---Fuck that.

Look y'all. Education is not expensive. For what you get out of it, the cost pales in comparison tot he benefits.

Just in California, they cut education funds by 25%. A quarter of what they had is now gone and they were struggling from previous cutbacks. Trillions of dollars is being invested willingly into the US's foreign conquests, but they don't wanna provide the bare minimum in funding that would provide all of their citizens with a quality education. The illiteracy rate in Detroit is 47% right now. Does any of this make sense to anybody?

They want you to be stupid, and we're getting fucked in the ass willingly. And its working.



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It is working, but not from the perspective you think.

Our foreign conquests are bullshit, you'll never hear me say otherwise.  I think, no scratch that shit, I know, that we dump ridiculous (not good enough word to describe) amounts of money into wars, "defense", and putting drug users in prisons for years upon years/striking out 2 time felons for fucking getting high all in the name of freedom and law & order.  Hypocrisy at its finest.  Many people understand this.  Unfortunately, the middle america soccer mom bitch with nothing to gain from any of these black hole money policies will support that shit to the fullest (not just soccer moms or middle america, just the first thing that popped into my head).

So what are we left with?  An education system that props up everyone and helps very few, even those who will NEVER vote or contribute to our society because they, like I said before, are unable to do so.  Im not talking functionally handicapped, im not talking a little slow, im talking about the kids who have to get baths at the schools.  Im talking the kids who cant talk, dont know their name, will never be able to write a fucking sentence let alone check a box on a ballot box, or hell, even go to the fucking grocery store pick something out and buy it.  There is a place for them, its just NOT at our overstretched overworked and generally fucked over public school system.  Characterizing that reality as taking away education from the masses of Detroit is not a fair assessment of anything Ive advocated. 

The fact that we as educators have the biggest cut of $ and still cant churn out competent citizens at a high enough rate tells us that this system is broken, and making better use of the money we have has to be a priority (yes, it sucks that the money gets diverted for retarded - pardon the use of that term - purposes).  Its just the reality of the system we live in.  Untill people start looking outside of the normal dems and republicans this aint changing, and i dont see that happening.  I dont like it, but what are we going to do, expand programs or cut programs that dont help the students/society?  Again, these kids need to be routed in a different way (privately owned centers?), and I dont have that answer, Im just looking at this from the perspective of the public school system which is failing kids who could be productive but arent being given every possible resource because of politics (people hear "cut special ed" and they wrongly think "masses will be uneducated").

Yeah that was long, sorry, this issue is a personal one.

Sami:
Every citizen is entitled to education in some way, if someone is truly completely incapable of being educated there are already procedures in place to exempt them, and even those are often abused to save money.

I lived in a disabled group home for a while in 1999-2000 and the local school district was trying to get out of educating this girl who lived there by saying she was comatose, even though she was smart because she was deaf and mute and they were cheap/lazy. She was supposed to be in 8th grade at the time but because they wasted so much time suing to stop it she got held back in the 5th grade.

If it went you're way, that will happen a lot more often.

Russell Bell:

--- Quote from: Sami on June 23, 2011, 07:55:46 PM ---Every citizen is entitled to education in some way, if someone is truly completely incapable of being educated there are already procedures in place to exempt them, and even those are often abused to save money.

I lived in a disabled group home for a while in 1999-2000 and the local school district was trying to get out of educating this girl who lived there by saying she was comatose, even though she was smart because she was deaf and mute and they were cheap/lazy. She was supposed to be in 8th grade at the time but because they wasted so much time suing to stop it she got held back in the 5th grade.

If it went you're way, that will happen a lot more often.

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Lemme say this first:  I see your point about kids falling thru the cracks.  I know, as ive stated, i work in education and it is heartbreaking to see some of these special needs kids and what they go thru.  I also get how we as a country have our priorities fucked up, I am not some dumbass with the wool pulled over my eyes who thinks that people arent benefiting from this whole system while others suffer; quite opposite actually, i despise a lot of these mainstream politicians and think most are self serving liars.

Those exact reasons are why i think that the public school system does not serve some of them well, and trying to do so hurts everyone.  Is the answer somewhere else?  Probably imo.  Special learning centers are an option...for example kids with autism around here have SEVERAL places which are privately owned and work with these kids daily and are affordable, my area has one of the highest rates of autism so people are doing their best to help.

That being said, im going to go get drunk.

Sami:
But then, that's more expensive because of profit taking and often times more fraudulent, like even that group home was private and the lady who ran it was a cheap-ass bitch who made it look like she cared whenever there was money on the line, but she hired untrained illegals to take care of the people instead of qualified nurses so she could profit.

Russell Bell:

--- Quote from: Sami on June 23, 2011, 08:23:05 PM ---But then, that's more expensive because of profit taking and often times more fraudulent, like even that group home was private and the lady who ran it was a cheap-ass bitch who made it look like she cared whenever there was money on the line, but she hired untrained illegals to take care of the people instead of qualified nurses so she could profit.

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Sounds fucked up.

How "privatized" was this lady's operation?   

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