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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2011, 03:18:56 AM »
Anyone who denies this cat's talent/creativity/song-writing ability is stuck on 90's West Coast rap, point blank. The gangsta shit.

You are the same people who probably don't like any new school rappers that touch on different content than what was big in the 90's. Move on, it's done. There's a reason why Nipsey Hussle or Jay Rock haven't broke out and have been out for a longggg time longer than Kendrick Lamar. It's because that Gangsta super OG Blood/Crip rap is DONE. It really pisses me off when people say everyone is jumping on Kendrick because of Dre - when in reality, Dre came to Kendrick because everyone was already jumping on his buzz. Selling out concerts when all you've dropped is Itunes albums? C'mon now.

It's the same reason that Game or Jeezy haven't been able to drop an album in 3 years, the same reason why Wayne's buzz ain't what it used to be, the same reason why nobody is trying to hear 50 Cent anymore - people actually grew up and moved on from that image rap. Nobody's trying to hear about gang banging and shooting people up anymore.

On and for the record, Top Dawg Ent > any record coming out of the West at the moment. Jay Rock, imo, is the weak link on the roster, but still dope.

The rap game needs to be diverse. it can't be all gangsta and it can't be all "bubble gum rap" about money, hoes and clothes. The West needs both, Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar so people can choose which one's rap is closer to them. If your grew up on 90's G-Funk/Gangsta Rap era - you prolly gonna pick up Jay Rock over Kendrick, just for the subject matter he's touching in his records. Folks that are tired of this gangsta shit should stuck with kendrick, cause he's really a breath of fresh air for the West Coast.

But it's no difference from back in the day, when you had Westside Connection spitting that gangsta shit and Jurassic 5 or The Pharcyde giving you that alternative hip-hop stuff.



IMO I don't need to move on from "G-Funk Era" to listen to new stuff - I can enjoy both, as long as it's good music. Too many dudes here are saying that "move on/grow up" type of shit - why can't y'all just enjoy MUSIC itself without giving a fuck when it's been recorded ???
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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2011, 07:25:41 AM »
Anyone who denies this cat's talent/creativity/song-writing ability is stuck on 90's West Coast rap, point blank. The gangsta shit.

You are the same people who probably don't like any new school rappers that touch on different content than what was big in the 90's. Move on, it's done. There's a reason why Nipsey Hussle or Jay Rock haven't broke out and have been out for a longggg time longer than Kendrick Lamar. It's because that Gangsta super OG Blood/Crip rap is DONE. It really pisses me off when people say everyone is jumping on Kendrick because of Dre - when in reality, Dre came to Kendrick because everyone was already jumping on his buzz. Selling out concerts when all you've dropped is Itunes albums? C'mon now.

It's the same reason that Game or Jeezy haven't been able to drop an album in 3 years, the same reason why Wayne's buzz ain't what it used to be, the same reason why nobody is trying to hear 50 Cent anymore - people actually grew up and moved on from that image rap. Nobody's trying to hear about gang banging and shooting people up anymore.

On and for the record, Top Dawg Ent > any record coming out of the West at the moment. Jay Rock, imo, is the weak link on the roster, but still dope.

SMH @ people saying you must be stuck in 90s if you don't feel Kendrick (or anyone else). Damn.. this "u stuck in 90s" bullshit got too popular amongst people on this forum and they keep on repeating it like they had no brain.

Don't you understand some people don't feel Kendrick because they don't feel Kendrick. This is so simple. I bet even reatrds can understand that.

I don't feel Kendrick but he made one song i like very much. I can't see how does it mean i'm stuck in the 90s.

The rap game needs to be diverse. it can't be all gangsta and it can't be all "bubble gum rap" about money, hoes and clothes. The West needs both, Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar so people can choose which one's rap is closer to them. If your grew up on 90's G-Funk/Gangsta Rap era - you prolly gonna pick up Jay Rock over Kendrick, just for the subject matter he's touching in his records. Folks that are tired of this gangsta shit should stuck with kendrick, cause he's really a breath of fresh air for the West Coast.

But it's no difference from back in the day, when you had Westside Connection spitting that gangsta shit and Jurassic 5 or The Pharcyde giving you that alternative hip-hop stuff.



IMO I don't need to move on from "G-Funk Era" to listen to new stuff - I can enjoy both, as long as it's good music. Too many dudes here are saying that "move on/grow up" type of shit - why can't y'all just enjoy MUSIC itself without giving a fuck when it's been recorded ???

real talk.
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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2011, 09:07:20 AM »
no1 is better than kendrick right now, albums a 5/5 easy. idiots on here waiting for gangsta rap making a comeback smh

kendrick, blu, fashawn, murs, schoolboy q is where its at
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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2011, 09:41:26 AM »
^Does Q have an album coming out?
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2011, 05:45:30 PM »
Anyone who denies this cat's talent/creativity/song-writing ability is stuck on 90's West Coast rap, point blank. The gangsta shit.

You are the same people who probably don't like any new school rappers that touch on different content than what was big in the 90's. Move on, it's done. There's a reason why Nipsey Hussle or Jay Rock haven't broke out and have been out for a longggg time longer than Kendrick Lamar. It's because that Gangsta super OG Blood/Crip rap is DONE. It really pisses me off when people say everyone is jumping on Kendrick because of Dre - when in reality, Dre came to Kendrick because everyone was already jumping on his buzz. Selling out concerts when all you've dropped is Itunes albums? C'mon now.

It's the same reason that Game or Jeezy haven't been able to drop an album in 3 years, the same reason why Wayne's buzz ain't what it used to be, the same reason why nobody is trying to hear 50 Cent anymore - people actually grew up and moved on from that image rap. Nobody's trying to hear about gang banging and shooting people up anymore.

On and for the record, Top Dawg Ent > any record coming out of the West at the moment. Jay Rock, imo, is the weak link on the roster, but still dope.

The rap game needs to be diverse. it can't be all gangsta and it can't be all "bubble gum rap" about money, hoes and clothes. The West needs both, Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar so people can choose which one's rap is closer to them. If your grew up on 90's G-Funk/Gangsta Rap era - you prolly gonna pick up Jay Rock over Kendrick, just for the subject matter he's touching in his records. Folks that are tired of this gangsta shit should stuck with kendrick, cause he's really a breath of fresh air for the West Coast.

But it's no difference from back in the day, when you had Westside Connection spitting that gangsta shit and Jurassic 5 or The Pharcyde giving you that alternative hip-hop stuff.



IMO I don't need to move on from "G-Funk Era" to listen to new stuff - I can enjoy both, as long as it's good music. Too many dudes here are saying that "move on/grow up" type of shit - why can't y'all just enjoy MUSIC itself without giving a fuck when it's been recorded ???

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »
It's different than Jurassic 5 and Pharcyde in the past because those did not sell back then. Those were underground.

Nowadays, people like Lupe, Drake, Eminem - that's the stuff that sells. Whereas in 1995, that type of music did not sell. If Kendrick Lamar debuts at #1 on the hip hop chart, it's safe to say his music is not for the minority like it once was. Gangsta rap in the 90's was a symbol of the times - crime was up, gangs were much more prevalent than nowadays, and the rate of kids going to college was at an all time low.

Now - crime is down, gangs aren't the "cool, hip thing" that they once were, and more kids are going to college than ever before. Times have changed. This is why I say that people are stuck in the 90's.

And by the way, Jay Rock is farrrrrrrrrr from G-Funk. Gangsta rap does not equal G-Funk. Warren G and DJ Quik were G-Funk but their musical content was far different than someone like Spice 1, MC Eiht, South Central Cartel, C-Bo, etc. Jay Rock and Nipsey Hussle are much closer to the latter than being closer to Warren G and DJ Quik. If anything, Kendrick Lamar is closer to G-Funk than Jay Rock.

There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).
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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2011, 07:32:47 PM »
It's different than Jurassic 5 and Pharcyde in the past because those did not sell back then. Those were underground.

Nowadays, people like Lupe, Drake, Eminem - that's the stuff that sells. Whereas in 1995, that type of music did not sell. If Kendrick Lamar debuts at #1 on the hip hop chart, it's safe to say his music is not for the minority like it once was. Gangsta rap in the 90's was a symbol of the times - crime was up, gangs were much more prevalent than nowadays, and the rate of kids going to college was at an all time low.

Now - crime is down, gangs aren't the "cool, hip thing" that they once were, and more kids are going to college than ever before. Times have changed. This is why I say that people are stuck in the 90's.

And by the way, Jay Rock is farrrrrrrrrr from G-Funk. Gangsta rap does not equal G-Funk. Warren G and DJ Quik were G-Funk but their musical content was far different than someone like Spice 1, MC Eiht, South Central Cartel, C-Bo, etc. Jay Rock and Nipsey Hussle are much closer to the latter than being closer to Warren G and DJ Quik. If anything, Kendrick Lamar is closer to G-Funk than Jay Rock.

There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).



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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2011, 08:26:12 PM »
There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers.

LOL no.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2011, 09:42:33 PM »
It's different than Jurassic 5 and Pharcyde in the past because those did not sell back then. Those were underground.

Nowadays, people like Lupe, Drake, Eminem - that's the stuff that sells. Whereas in 1995, that type of music did not sell. If Kendrick Lamar debuts at #1 on the hip hop chart, it's safe to say his music is not for the minority like it once was. Gangsta rap in the 90's was a symbol of the times - crime was up, gangs were much more prevalent than nowadays, and the rate of kids going to college was at an all time low.

Now - crime is down, gangs aren't the "cool, hip thing" that they once were, and more kids are going to college than ever before. Times have changed. This is why I say that people are stuck in the 90's.

And by the way, Jay Rock is farrrrrrrrrr from G-Funk. Gangsta rap does not equal G-Funk. Warren G and DJ Quik were G-Funk but their musical content was far different than someone like Spice 1, MC Eiht, South Central Cartel, C-Bo, etc. Jay Rock and Nipsey Hussle are much closer to the latter than being closer to Warren G and DJ Quik. If anything, Kendrick Lamar is closer to G-Funk than Jay Rock.

There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).


i guess we know why tha realest only sold 5k albums :o
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2011, 09:43:37 PM »
It's different than Jurassic 5 and Pharcyde in the past because those did not sell back then. Those were underground.

Nowadays, people like Lupe, Drake, Eminem - that's the stuff that sells. Whereas in 1995, that type of music did not sell. If Kendrick Lamar debuts at #1 on the hip hop chart, it's safe to say his music is not for the minority like it once was. Gangsta rap in the 90's was a symbol of the times - crime was up, gangs were much more prevalent than nowadays, and the rate of kids going to college was at an all time low.

Now - crime is down, gangs aren't the "cool, hip thing" that they once were, and more kids are going to college than ever before. Times have changed. This is why I say that people are stuck in the 90's.

And by the way, Jay Rock is farrrrrrrrrr from G-Funk. Gangsta rap does not equal G-Funk. Warren G and DJ Quik were G-Funk but their musical content was far different than someone like Spice 1, MC Eiht, South Central Cartel, C-Bo, etc. Jay Rock and Nipsey Hussle are much closer to the latter than being closer to Warren G and DJ Quik. If anything, Kendrick Lamar is closer to G-Funk than Jay Rock.

There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).


i guess we know why tha realest only sold 5k albums :o


my bad it was 3k 8)
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2011, 01:58:44 AM »
There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).
haha no way man.

the sound statement is not really true either.
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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2011, 04:57:09 AM »
It's different than Jurassic 5 and Pharcyde in the past because those did not sell back then. Those were underground.

Nowadays, people like Lupe, Drake, Eminem - that's the stuff that sells. Whereas in 1995, that type of music did not sell. If Kendrick Lamar debuts at #1 on the hip hop chart, it's safe to say his music is not for the minority like it once was. Gangsta rap in the 90's was a symbol of the times - crime was up, gangs were much more prevalent than nowadays, and the rate of kids going to college was at an all time low.

Now - crime is down, gangs aren't the "cool, hip thing" that they once were, and more kids are going to college than ever before. Times have changed. This is why I say that people are stuck in the 90's.

And by the way, Jay Rock is farrrrrrrrrr from G-Funk. Gangsta rap does not equal G-Funk. Warren G and DJ Quik were G-Funk but their musical content was far different than someone like Spice 1, MC Eiht, South Central Cartel, C-Bo, etc. Jay Rock and Nipsey Hussle are much closer to the latter than being closer to Warren G and DJ Quik. If anything, Kendrick Lamar is closer to G-Funk than Jay Rock.

There is exceptions - Game still spits gangsta stuff but he also has an intellect and better lyrics/song content than half the rappers. He's also been known to have a very diverse sound on his albums and bring guests to the table that your typical gangsta rapper wouldn't even think of (Common, KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, Drake, etc).

I'm talking about rappers from the West - Lupe, Drake and Eminem ain't West Coast. Kendrick Lamar has a big buzz right now, but it's not like he's selling million albums so it's not different from 90's era. None of the underground rappers from the West that had their 5 minutes of fame sold shit. Bishop Lamont, Crooked I, Clyde Carson, Glasses Malone, Jay Rock, Nipsey Hussle, Techniec etc. - all of them had great buzz before and didn't sell 1 unit yet. So don't get too exited saying Kendrick will go platinum or something cause we all have heard it before with dudes I mentioned earlier.

And I didn't say Jay Rock is G-Funk or Gangsta Rap=G-Funk. He's closer to that era than Kendrick because of the lyrical content he puts out in his raps - that's it.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2011, 04:57:37 AM »
no1 is better than kendrick right now
Well, what does that change?

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2011, 10:11:53 PM »
Success aint measured by going platinum. Let's be real - only Em, Kanye, Drake, and Nicki went platinum last year. I'm not sure any rapper has gone platinum in 2011. That's not the measuring stick for success and what's hot. The measuring stick is where you chart on iTunes, and last I checked Kendrick was topping that list.

Sure, the rappers I mentioned are not Westcoast, but my point is that's what's selling. In the 90's, the Eastcoast and South rap that was selling was all gangsta stuff too - Mobb Deep, Biggie, Jay-Z, Nas, Wu Tang, Master P, Juvenile, Scarface - do you get my point? You can't name me a gangsta rapper right now - from any region, that's doing big things.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar "I am Tupac, I am Nate Dogg"
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2011, 04:04:15 AM »
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT AT KENDRICK LAMAR DROP HIS PROJECT ON 7-2 AND SOLD OVER 5K RECORDS IN 3DAYS. HAD HE DROPPED THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK HE PROLLY WOULDVE DONE 1O -15K EASY. THIS DUDE IS ONE RECORD FROM BLOWING UP BIG AND TAKING OVER THE WEST FO REEL. HIS TEAM IS TIGHT AND THE ABSOUL KID MIGHT BE THE BEST RAPPER ON TDE.