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Shallow:
Let me ask you guys something.

If someone like Lenny Kravits, Bruce Springsteen, or Lionel Rithchie made an Album and used lyrics by Nas, Pac, Krs-One (or who ever). What would you say?

Rock and RnB ARTISTS put a lot of effort into the melodies they compose for their albums. Then some hip hop producer or DJ hears them, likes them, and steals them.

People actually have the odacity to compare which producers make better beats, and then compare Hip Hop albums based on stolen instrumentals. The beatnuts recently bashed JLo for taking there beat, when they stole it themselves.

Hip Hop should be judged by the vocals and the vocals alone, because that is the only part of it that is original. Lyrics, Rhyme Patterns, and Flow. Nothing else.

You had a thread stating that Rza's production is better than Eminem's. From what I understand Eminem and Jeff Bass originally compose the instrumentals on the album (Eminem Show), RZA samples, he steals melodies and puts them on his tracks. Check the credits. If the original song is older than a certain number of years than it does not have to be credited, but that does not mean that it was not used.

I know the producers job is not to create music but to put it together. Ultimately the producer's purpose is to get the album to sell copies in which case Eminem is without a doubt the best producer in the game right now.

M Dogg™:
Actually, with the cost of sampling now-a-days, a lot of producers are moving away from that, because it is too costly, and most the money goes to the original artist, and not the rapper or producer. So to make money, producers have to make their own beats. Which is why some people like the Roots do all their own music, Dre doesn't sample, and whatnot. And people do judge rappers by vocals, do you hear anyone saying Nelly is great just because he has the best beats, or Big Tymers, or anything Neptunes. Peace

Trauma-san:
Another thing people do (puff daddy and dre do this) is re-record the sample.  Like Puff didn't jack "every breath you take" from the original recording, he just re-recorded the bassline and guitar from the original song.  That way, you only have to pay publishing royalties, and don't have to pay performance royalties (you didn't take the performance, just the song).  

Yeah!:
Good points...except...


 Eminem isnt the only one that composes music.

As always im reppin for my man. QUIK. The most underrated Playa in  the game. Why? Cause of threads like this. How can people call Eminem the best producer or the most original producer when someone like Quik barley ever uses samples. He did back in the day when he was startin out but look at him now. Under Tha Influence (correct me if im wrong) didnt jack shit. Im sure he sampled some bass lines or drums but hey, for the most part its all OG.


Under Tha Influence is now my fav Quik album. You really have to listen HARD to understand the musical genious behind it. I listened to that whole damn thing on headphones while i was goin to sleep and thats when i realized how original it was. Quik fans didnt like the cd. Basicly cause it was different. But i now understand what Quik meant when he said its a whole different kind of music. You just gotta listen close to hear it. Its not as simple as you think by hearing it once or twice. I wish i could tell Quik this because I think this is part of the reason hes retiring. The fans didnt understand and appriciate his hard work on this record. Saleswise he failed. Was it because it was too underground. NAW, its cause the game aint ready for it yet.


Dr Dres gonna do the same on Detox. You wont get that Dre sound you all love. Im 99% sure hes gonna switch it up. Alot of people are gonna be let down i bet. Cause i dont think Dre wants to do that same ole sound. Im gonna buy the record though. For the music. Not for the name. Not for the big name, Dr. Dre.


Maybe i didnt prove why Quiks the best in this post. But I strongly urge everyone that owns Under Tha Influence to take a deep listen to it on headphones. Feel the music. He really is a "musical genious".

Don Jacob:
dj quik is still the 2nd best producer of all time, but 80% of his beats are from Zapp and Roger, Parliament , and the doobie brothers

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