DUBCC - Tha Connection > Outbound Connection

Hip Hop Beats are BullShit!!!

<< < (2/3) > >>

Don Jacob:

--- Quote from: Shallow on January 17, 2003, 07:54:19 AM ---Let me ask you guys something.

If someone like Lenny Kravits, Bruce Springsteen, or Lionel Rithchie made an Album and used lyrics by Nas, Pac, Krs-One (or who ever). What would you say?

Rock and RnB ARTISTS put a lot of effort into the melodies they compose for their albums. Then some hip hop producer or DJ hears them, likes them, and steals them.

People actually have the odacity to compare which producers make better beats, and then compare Hip Hop albums based on stolen instrumentals. The beatnuts recently bashed JLo for taking there beat, when they stole it themselves.

Hip Hop should be judged by the vocals and the vocals alone, because that is the only part of it that is original. Lyrics, Rhyme Patterns, and Flow. Nothing else.

You had a thread stating that Rza's production is better than Eminem's. From what I understand Eminem and Jeff Bass originally compose the instrumentals on the album (Eminem Show), RZA samples, he steals melodies and puts them on his tracks. Check the credits. If the original song is older than a certain number of years than it does not have to be credited, but that does not mean that it was not used.

I know the producers job is not to create music but to put it together. Ultimately the producer's purpose is to get the album to sell copies in which case Eminem is without a doubt the best producer in the game right now.

--- End quote ---


::gives props::


where have you been all my life homie? ;D

mauzip:
Eminem, Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, Mannie Fresh, Timbaland...

M Dogg™:
As I said, coast too much money to sample. D.J. Quik and Dre used to be the biggest samplers, and now they switched up to making their own shit. Some people like Snoop's producers, and Premier still sample, but that's for the pure Hip-Hop feel to it, not because of unoriginality. I say Hip-Hop is still growing, it's only 20 years in the mainstream, and has never been defined with a certain sound. It will be interesting what exactly producers do with the music, and how artist are able to flow over it.

Kill:
To me there's still pretty much of a difference between just sampling parts of a song (like I'll Be Missing You for example, even though I don't like that song) and completly jackin a beat like J-Lo's producers did. I've never heard "Hi-Jack" but as far as I know the original original doesn't exactly have the "Watch Out Now" beat, it's just that flute sample...correct me if I'm wrong

West Coast Veteran:

--- Quote from: mauzip on January 18, 2003, 12:09:12 AM ---Eminem, Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, Mannie Fresh, Timbaland...

--- End quote ---

Organized Noize, The Neptunes

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page