Infinite this song might soften your unjustified hatred for Messy Marv...

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.

The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.

Good job at contradicting yourself.

How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.

lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.

Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up:     "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly.  The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.).   The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences.  Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."

I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.

And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.

for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.

Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.

[Chamillitary Click]

Honestly, the silliest shit I ever heard.

Yeah, maybe I'd be more inclined to blast some Dre or Pac if I was in California. Or when I'm rollin' around here, I'll blast Illmatic. But that doesn't mean I just turn off everyone else.

Based on your theory, you should never listen to Nas because there are not circumstances where Illmatic fits your situation. Where are you where classic, East Coast music comes into play?

[Sccit]

Honestly, the silliest shit I ever heard.

Yeah, maybe I'd be more inclined to blast some Dre or Pac if I was in California. Or when I'm rollin' around here, I'll blast Illmatic. But that doesn't mean I just turn off everyone else.

Based on your theory, you should never listen to Nas because there are not circumstances where Illmatic fits your situation. Where are you where classic, East Coast music comes into play?

Another idiot who didn't get it.

[Chamillitary Click]

^You're a fucking idiot. You just said three posts above "it's about the envoirment you're in". What West Coast envoirment would make you listen to East Coast music?

[Sccit]

lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.

The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.

Good job at contradicting yourself.

How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.

lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.

Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up:     "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly.  The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.).   The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences.  Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."

I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.

And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.

for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.

Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.

right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?

[Sccit]

^You're a fucking idiot. You just said three posts above "it's about the envoirment you're in". What West Coast envoirment would make you listen to East Coast music?

LOL...u are so fucking dumb, son. read the post above this one. different music gives off different vibes. music with an east coast vibe, for me, i'd listen to chillin in my room in my headphones, as opposed to some upbeat west coast music, which i'd rather bump cruisin the streets with my windows down. ...different music for different moods/settings. doesnt mean i have to relate to the words or the coast the artist is from lmfao, just the vibe the song gives off. you must have a very low IQ to not understand what is being said here.

[MUHFUKKA]

right...and most people are stupid sheep.

your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?

[Sccit]

right...and most people are stupid sheep.

your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?

check comments on this video for further explanation:

[Chamillitary Click]

That's mad fake. The envoirment in California will never make you listen to East Coast music.

Just like I've never found myself in an envoirment to bump West Coast music. I just bump it because it's dope.

[MUHFUKKA]

right...and most people are stupid sheep.

your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?

check comments on this video for further explanation:

we are all lambs being guided by corrupt shepherds...a real lamb knows what he is and rebels against those fraudelent individuals attempting to lead the way. LA's Most Blunted, fuckwidit.

hahaha i can see why you might feel like a baby sheep seeing as youre a pussy whos almost 25 and still lives with his parents, but i for damn sure aint no fuckin lamb

[Sccit]

right...and most people are stupid sheep.

your little rap group is called lamb. you know that a lamb is a baby sheep right? are you starting you realize how gay that is?

check comments on this video for further explanation:

we are all lambs being guided by corrupt shepherds...a real lamb knows what he is and rebels against those fraudelent individuals attempting to lead the way. LA's Most Blunted, fuckwidit.

hahaha i can see why you might feel like a baby sheep seeing as youre a pussy whos almost 25 and still lives with his parents, but i for damn sure aint no fuckin lamb

we're all sheeps, u dumbfuck...the system we're in owns us, and those who understand this do not comply with the system. those who actually think they are living their own life and are not being controlled by a system are retarded, such as urself.

[Sccit]

That's mad fake. The envoirment in California will never make you listen to East Coast music.

Just like I've never found myself in an envoirment to bump West Coast music. I just bump it because it's dope.

LOL...the concept went over your head. perhaps ur too young to understand. one day u'll get it (i hope)

[MUHFUKKA]

and i get what you guys mean about the environment being able to make you want to listen to certain types of music, but infant is an idiot who can only see things in black and white and just flat out rejects ever listening to messy marv because he lives in misery (missouri too)

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.

The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.

Good job at contradicting yourself.

How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.

lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.

Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up:     "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly.  The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.).   The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences.  Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."

I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.

And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.

for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.

Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.

right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?

Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.

Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.

And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song. He listens to Afrocentric music (Damian Marley), NY (Nas), emo rap (Pac and Em) and gangsta pop (Snoop), most of which isn't shaped by his environment.

[Sccit]

lmao stupid article. So if I'm in New York I'm not gonna want to listen to Warren G? That's stupid logic. It's not where I'm at, its MOOD that determines what i want to listen to.

The manner in which you live your life has little to do with music either. Someone being a computer nerd isn't going to stop them from loving hardcore gangsta rap. Point of reference? Lol the vast majority of this forum idolizes gangsta rap from California, a region which they have never been and know little about. When they get off this forum they go and speak in German/French/Italian to their family members about shit having zilch to do with California or its music. Infinite, you yourself probably grew up in a typical white Christian family and at some point fell in love with African culture. That in itself is proof that people choose their own interests, and many times its not based at all on point of reference or personal experience.

Good job at contradicting yourself.

How so? You paraphrase an article claiming perspective and environment play a huge role in the music we like and I just explained how it doesn't. Even using your own tastes as an example. If you can love 2Pac's music, which has nothing to do with your own environment, then there's no reason you can't at least listen to a Messy song. If you can love west coast Death Row artists without living in California then obviously environment doesn't play a big role in your music tastes. If you can love Distant Relatives and visiting Africa, despite being a white guy from a middle class family then obviously point of reference isn't that important.

lol, u don't get it...it's not about where ur from or how u grew up, it's about the environment ur in as ur listening to the music, the mood ur in as ur listening to the music, ur surroundings as ur listening to the music. these all have an affect on how u hear the song and how u mentally/emotionally perceive it at that very moment. it's like the difference between hearin a sad song at a funeral, or a sad song at ur birthday party.. ur likely to enjoy and feel certain songs more under certain circumstances. don't u get it? lmao...ur blabberin about nothin.

Did you even read what Infinite posted? He clearly mentions where and how a person grew up:     "What a person percieves as reality is completely dependent on that person's point of reference and differs accordingly.  The point of reference can be anything from where you may live (e.g. Compton, Queens, suburbs, hood), to the manner in which you live your life (e.g. gangster, lover, book worm, etc.).   The Principle of Relativity is a principle addressing the diversity of human experiences.  Nothing reflects the formation of opinions as art does."

I'm replying directly to what he posted. You haven't been paying attention. And you still don't get it. It's mood that matters, not environment. When you're at a funeral you're usually feelings sad, that's why you would want to listen to a sad song.

And Brian, even with that article you still haven't explained why you won't listen to the song.

for most people, environment dictates mood, mood dictates perception. not rocket science.

Wrong. Most people bump whatever is in the top 40, not based on where they live. I just gave the example of Europeans loving Death Row music. Warren G has more fans in Europe than he does here in Cali.

right...and most people are stupid sheep. wtf is ur point? it has less to do with where u live and more to do with the setting ur in. europeans like death row music not cuz they can relate to the content, but because a lot of it is feel-good, upbeat music that bumps. people can relate to the sounds of music, not just the content. "california love", for instance, gives off a party vibe that every1 on the dance-floor can relate to. but when ur on the way to visit a family member at the hospital, ur less likely to be bumpin "california love" on the way...get it yet?

Because of mood not environment. Regardless of whether you're on the way to visit someone in the hospital or sitting on the beach getting a phone call that someone is in the hospital, you're still going to feel the same.

Music tastes change, and its not based on environment. Rap fans in California loved the Death Row sound in the 90s, now they don't. Environment is still the same. If I moved to New York for a year I guarantee you I would still be listening to the same kind of music.

And this discussion still hasn't explained why Infinite won't listen to the song.

environments set moods, u fucking idiot...good lord. man, i tried to be patient with u, but ur just too fucking dumb, bro. do u really not get it? i'm not saying environment is EVERYTHING, but it plays its part. for some people less, for some people more. to flat out ignore this concept and brush it off as inaccurate is just straight up retarded on ur behalf.


i'll try explaining it one more time...just because u live on the west doesnt mean ur gunna listen exclusively to west coast music. but someone who is chillin on the beach will TYPICALLY be more inclined to bump Dogg Pound over Wu-Tang. someone chillin in the subways of NYC will TYPICALLY be more inclined to listen to Mobb Deep over Warren G & Nate Dogg. it's not the same for everyone, but we're speakin in general terms.