Too $hort's Thought's On His "Messy" Situation!

[Hoodlum204]

Last week, rumors spread that Bay Area rappers Too $hort and Messy Marv were beefing after Marv initiated a war of words on Twitter. Short, who is approaching album #19 (”No Trespassing”) and is a little more old school, demanded a face-to-face meeting instead of a Twitter war.


We relayed this message to Messy, then passed along his number to Short, and the two had a conversation and squashed things. But barely an hour later, Messy Marv tweeted “FUCK TOO SHORT” and is now preparing to release the video for a diss record he calls “The Bay’s Biggest Hypocrite.”

“I’m not in a battle,” Too Short says. “He’s battling by himself. Believe me.” So does Messy have a legitimate gripe, or a publicity stunt? You can listen — or read — what Short had to say after the jump and judge for yourself.



Too Short: I really didn’t know [what this whole thing was about] until a few days ago. I did know that I got a phone call a while ago [saying] I had been mentioned in a [Messy Marv] song. I was kinda like, “Whatever.” I already know Marv likes to get into it with certain people on the rap thing. I never do the [beef] stuff so I just let that go and never even tripped on it.

We’d always been real cool. We did some work together. He did a song on my compilation CD, I Love The Bay, and he had me on a song or two of his. Every time we’d see each other it was like, “What’s up?” Nothing but love over the years. Many years.

I guess it was just a couple of things that built up to [his Twitter statements]. I don’t really know. I just talked to him two days ago and we had about a 20, 30 minute conversation and everything was put on the table. It was a real peaceful conversation, it wasn’t no punk shit, yelling, screaming, nothing. It was just a conversation between two homies. I’ve got my own little investigation I put together [to find out why he's mad]. I feel like something happened back in 2007 – this is what he’s telling me.

[Marv] said that I called him one day and told him he had to sign to my label and anybody [from the Bay] that wasn’t signed to my label was getting ran over, that I would have violent things done to him and his family and all kinds of stuff. And I’m like, “Marv. That never happened.” But he swears it happened. He told E-40 this story, he told Richie Rich this story. Folks keep coming to me and I say, “Man, I ain’t never got at Marv like that. As far as I know everything’s cool with me and Marv.”

I ain’t the kind of muthafucker who just backs down on his words. If I said the shit [to Marv on the phone], I said it. He said we passed the phone around and we were all on the phone talking shit. I don’t know. Apparently that was the birth of it, four years ago. And nothing really came out about it until he mentioned me in a song. I don’t know when the song came out but I got a phone call from a couple homies. Beeda Weeda called me, Richie Rich, E-40 got at me and they all said the same thing: “What’s going on with you and Marv?”

So Marv keeps asking people to send a message, like, “Are we cool or what?” So I sent back the message, “Yeah, we’re cool.” When we spoke the other day he said he was trying to get on the phone and talk to me. But nobody told me that part of it. I’ve had the same number for the last ten years. You could have easily got my number from somebody, texted me, anything other than just [blasting me on Twitter].

So I guess he never got word back from any of them that I was going to get on the phone with him and just speak our peace, and he has a little animosity behind that. So first, he thought four years ago that I called him and threatened him. Four years later, he just wanted to make sure there ain’t no problem and [he thought] I wouldn’t get on the phone with him. So, to me all these little things are misunderstandings or whatever.

I’m not about to be in no rap battle about little shit like this. Rapping back and forth making records and battling on Twitter and shit, come on. I don’t even look at the damn Twitter. But, I guess the firecracker, the thing that lit the fuse was the song that just came out with 40 Glocc, “Welcome to California.” It’s me, 40 Glocc, Snoop, E-40. I said something like, “Welcome to the Bay, up here we ain’t got no Crips and Bloods.” That’s just a fact. There ain’t really no Crips or Bloods in the Bay. But I guess he took that [to mean] I was talking about him. I don’t know [what he thought]. It went way over my head. One of my Frisco homies told me the other day he was mad at me over the 40 Glocc song.

[So after I spoke to Marv on the phone a few days ago] he texted me and said, “You don’t respect me brah.” And I texted him back, “I’ve got 100% respect for you and I’m glad we talked. Now we ain’t got no middle man between us, so we can just holla, whatever.” And he texted me right back saying, “No, you don’t.” That was our last communication and then he started tweeting again.

After my conversation with him, I kind of understood why he’s upset. It was a couple of misunderstandings and a couple messages relayed wrong. And then you hear a song that ain’t about you and think it’s about you. So, he fed into all the shit. But at the same time, I just don’t understand why you would go cyber. Why didn’t you just get at me? You didn’t have to call somebody else to talk to me.

He’s spreading this thing like it’s a beef between me and him. No. This is a beef between him and me. He’s mad at me. I’m not mad at him. So after this, I’m not even going to speak on this shit. I don’t care how far out these words go, it is what it is. He can battle all day.

I do shows all over the Bay. I’m tied so deep into this community of Oakland, California. I do tons of work for kids and all kinds of charities and the city officials. I’ve done so much stuff to help the city and the Bay. I just try to help curb some of the violence and be a positive part of the community. I do a lot of work with [Oakland youth center] Youth UpRising and the City of Oakland, and I record a lot of songs with young artists from the Bay for free or for small change, all on the strength. I’m [speaking on this] right now because I’ve got so much love for the Bay. The Bay made my career and I’m not going to let somebody come along on some little petty stuff trying to put friction between me and my folks.

If you real, you aren’t gonna do no Twitter cyber war. That’s not what no real gangster would do. No hardcore dude would go to Twitter to battle. Every time you’re typing in words about me you’re calling me “@TooShort”? Like, c’mon, man. Cut that shit out. Basically, it’s a pretty silly thing. I feel like it’s an injustice to the Bay Area music scene. This is years into his career, years into my career, and we’re going to make the whole Bay look bad, like there’s some kind of beef that doesn’t even exist? C’mon man. That’s not cool for the Bay.

So Short, any last words for Messy Marv?

Marv, you my little homie. I love you, boy. Keep getting your money and get past this little stuff and make your music. I’m not in a battle, he’s battling by himself. Believe me.

Taken From; http://www.ozonemag.com/2011/08/08/too-hort-speaks-on-messy-marv-beef-hes-battling-with-himself/

[J-FUNKTION]

drugs mayne...drugs is bad....

[GangstaBoogy]

He's been a clown for years now.

[papa-smurf]

sound like some hoe shit.how u text a man & say u dont respect me & the man say i got 100% respect u  say know u dont.like come on messy marv.u sound like a little fucking girl.he must be doped out of his mind.crack is wack.

[Sccit]

obviously, dude just wants publicity..i bet he told too short, but short dont wanna say nothin.

[OG Jaydc]

He's been a clown for years now.

Reminds me of someone. The game.

[GangstaBoogy]

Seriously dude, get a life. Following me in every thread just to mention Game is just embarassing. I like Game's music but I don't know him or give a fuck about him on a personal level so you're "beef" with me is super lame.

[marquesmc@comcast.net]

jt the bigga just dissed messy marv on a song called next 1 i wonder if mess gonna respond to that

[Hoodlum204]

jt the bigga just dissed messy marv on a song called next 1 i wonder if mess gonna respond to that

Yeah I Posted It!! Not Sure If Everyone Caught It!!
EDIT: Track Is Called "Take One"

Check: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=271349.0

[Sccit]

jt the bigga just dissed messy marv on a song called next 1 i wonder if mess gonna respond to that

apparently, mess texted jt, told him he's next LOL

[G-Bee]

Strange situation... Especially that phone call 4 years ago, when Too Short supposedly threatened Mess. How can you not remember a phone call like that? If you are 100% positive that it didn't happen, you would call Mess out on being a liar, am I right? Too Short sounds suspect here.

[Sccit]

Strange situation... Especially that phone call 4 years ago, when Too Short supposedly threatened Mess. How can you not remember a phone call like that? If you are 100% positive that it didn't happen, you would call Mess out on being a liar, am I right? Too Short sounds suspect here.

yea...he does sound a lil iffy about that shit. i think people are too quick to hop on too shorts dick and back him up, as if he's incapable of doin somethin worthy of bein dissed. at the same time, i do think that it's somethin they coulda squashed internally and that messy's doin a lot of it for publicity.

[MUHFUKKA]

pretty funny that short is talking down on messy for snorting coke when its well known that too short used to smoke crack

[midwestryder]

Strange situation... Especially that phone call 4 years ago, when Too Short supposedly threatened Mess. How can you not remember a phone call like that? If you are 100% positive that it didn't happen, you would call Mess out on being a liar, am I right? Too Short sounds suspect here.

too short did call him liar & no too short does not sond suspect at all . too short is trying to act like grown up man . while messy sounds childish & doing this for for publicity because his career is going no where anymore

[midwestryder]

pretty funny that short is talking down on messy for snorting coke when its well known that too short used to smoke crack

no it is not well known too short used to smoke crack because it is buncho false ass bullcrap . don't believe everything that is told to you . there are too many haters & stupid rumor makers these days . this world has become sad place to live in with last 4 to 5 generations