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And on top of that, I read that Lil Wayne held a release party for Tha Carter IV in LA. I looked through some of the pictures, and I didn't see Game there either. I saw Rick Ross, DJ Khaled, Drake, etc.
Nobody is saying Jay-Z is beyond criticism. You can call his albums "weak" or "overrated" but the fact remains he's dropped the most consecutive #1 albums in music. He beat out Elvis Presley. When was he "not relevenat"? When has he not pushed more than 400,000 copies of an album on the first week? When has he not done over a million worldwide ever? I mean, "certified", within the year. Jay's sales figures CRUSH Game's. The only mainstream artist coming close to touching him in hip-hop is Eminem.
The threadstarter doesn't know the difference between the word "blackballed" and the phrase "currently irrelevant".
Quote from: Reality Check on August 30, 2011, 10:57:23 AMThe threadstarter doesn't know the difference between the word "blackballed" and the phrase "currently irrelevant". Guess Love33 is going to ignore this fact.
You gotta be kidding me man did you ever actually take a look at the numbers before you wrote this senseless shit? Game's debut album CRUSHED Jay-Z's "Reasonable Doubt" in sales. Look at the numbers head up -- Game opened at nearly 600k units with "The Documentary" and quickly went to platinum status and Jay-Z took until 2002 to get certified platinum for Reasonable Doubt (which was due to all the MTV dickriding, nobody paid attention to his shit until after Pac died). It took Jigga 7 years for his debut to go platinum.Jay-Z's big break came from MTV pushing him hard with "Can I Get A..." and his feature with Jermaine Dupri on "Money Ain't A Thang" was really when his career was born on the main stage. After that, his career tookoff like a rocket but thanks to MTV and people being done with Pac (R.I.P) weren't going to listen to Will Smith for the next 5 years so they were looking to MTV for the next big thing.The Game also outsold Jay-Z if you want to compare their second albums head up as well (Game debuted at #1 and sold over 4 million worldwide). It wasn't until the third and fourth album that Jay-Z beats Game head up in sales (and if you look at the number of spins and video spins you will see a huge difference).Jay-Z is a solid artist no doubt with a boatload of platinum records, but tell the truth next time you post. Game isn't some peanut butter artist.
Quote from: Reality Check on August 30, 2011, 04:25:15 PMQuote from: Reality Check on August 30, 2011, 10:57:23 AMThe threadstarter doesn't know the difference between the word "blackballed" and the phrase "currently irrelevant". Guess Love33 is going to ignore this fact.The word "irrelevant" is used loosely on here.You're not "irrelevant" if you just sold 100k units in a week with no major video in rotation. If he's irrelevant than so is Snoop Dogg because "Doggumentary" sold 80,000 units to date and Game outsold him in one week. Dr. Dre would be irrelevant too than because he hasn't had an album go platinum since 1999. This is the logic of some of the people on this forum. They make a rule then they go against that rule for certain artists. If Game is irrelevant, every artist on the West Coast is irrelevant because he sold the most of anyone from the West since 2000. Check the resume.If he's irrelevant, he wouldn't have songs with Drake, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, E-40, Justin Timberlake, Trey Songz, Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, etc.Irrelevant rappers are people like: Messy Marv, Cadillac Tah, Spider, Swoop G, Hittman, etc.
Slice it any fucking way you want. Jay-Z generates way more revenue than Game. His lowest-selling solo in the last five years did 420,000 copies on its first week. Game just did under 100,000. Again, when you take these numbers and try to translate it into me "hating" or saying "Game is irrelevant", you manipulate the argument into something that it isn't. Obviously, he IS relevant. However, he isn't a game-changer. He sells a lot but he's never outsold his older sales record, let alone broken any new ones. Jay-Z's music crosses over into the pop charts. He breaks sales records.
--no video play for Warren G's "Lookin At You" off his big Universal release "Return of Regulator" album (Warren was a superstar heading into that album where he fell)Superstar? No he wasn't. Maybe after Regulate... G Funk Era, but Take a Look Over Your Shoulder was wack as fuck, but MTV still played I Shot the Sheriff. I Want It All wasn't that dope either. It's not a surprise that he didn't get much rotation after that.--minimal airplay for "Who Ride Wit Us" which was huge on the 'Up In Smoke Tour' and went GoldThe video wasn't good at all... complete mismatch for such a dope song.--Shade Shiest with Kurupt & Nate Dogg "Where I Wanna Be" (had to watch this one at 2am on BET cause MTV wouldnt play it)The song had hardly any buzz in the mainstream outside of California.--Game "One Blood" banned by MTVMTV doesn't want to participate in the obvious display of gang affiliation. HOWEVER, they did have Game perform One Blood on TRL, though he was just saying "One" instead of "Blood."--Crooked I "Still Tha Row" video banned by MTVThat song wasn't gonna blow, plus outside of the West Coast, very few people gave a fuck about Crooked I.--Game ft. Lil Wayne "R.E.D. Nation" banned by MTV...for the same reason as One Blood--Naughty by Nature "Mourn You Til I Join You [Tupac Tribute]" one of the greatest vids of all time; MTV was too busy playin Puffy "Missin You"Naturally a Puffy song is going to get more attention, especially since that was an '80s sample-happy period. His single alone did 2 or 3 million. What did NBN do? They're not even West Coast anyway, so I don't know why they came up. Sure, it's a Pac tribute, but still not West Coast.Had this trend went the other way we probably might have saw videos for tracks like: DJ Quik ft. Dr. Dre "Put It On Me," "Black Mercedes," "High Come Down" by Chico & Coolwadda, Luniz "A Piece Of Me" ft. Fat Joe, DJ Quik "50 Wayz," Hi-C "I Don't Wanna Know" ft. Nate Dogg. A lot of artists quit doing videos because they knew they were going to get "overlooked" by MTV.Not that those songs were bad, but they just weren't trendy. MTV's not about playing stuff that appeals to a very small audience that doesn't even watch MTV anyway, but BET. So it makes sense.We basically lost a whole era of priceless music that should be now-classics. And there's more I'm just too tired to keep typing this shit. They blackballed a whole era of great music.How does MTV not giving heavy rotation to West Coats songs mean that we "lost a whole era of priceless music"? We got the music, it just didn't get played on ONE channel. In addition, I bet you could find two or three times as many East Coast rappers and their songs that got looked over by MTV as well. Same thing with other regions. Bone Thugs got heavy rotation before, but not after The Art of War. Why? Because their buzz was dying down, and their new stuff wasn't as good. Same thing with the Game as of recent. HOWEVER, they did still play Wouldn't Get Far, so you can't hate on them.Also, MTV banned Hit 'Em Up for reasons that I understand. Does that mean that they blackballed Pac back in the day? No. His other videos got heavy rotation, and later videos like I Ain't Mad at Cha and To Live & Die in L.A. got HEAVY rotation.
MTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.
This and them jimmy h post are some networth, and I must add for the 90's cats, when all rap city and yo mtv raps started playing 90% of west coast all the time was that fair in yall eyes and did that mean they was blackballing the south and the east underground artist? Yell
QuoteThis and them jimmy h post are some networth, and I must add for the 90's cats, when all rap city and yo mtv raps started playing 90% of west coast all the time was that fair in yall eyes and did that mean they was blackballing the south and the east underground artist? YellThe South didnt really have an identity until Crunk came along with the finger snappin and deep southern base. Eightball & MJG, Outkast, Bushwick Bill, Scarface were mostly rappin over Westcoast beats and some were even usin G-Funk tracks in the South in the 90's. Even when No Limit came along they were still "West Coast Bad Boyz."On the East, Nas, LL, Naughty, Wu Tang, and B.I.G. was the big faces and they got their play.
The blood gang embraces Tupac as a member even if YOU dont.