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Quote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 02:30:10 PMMTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.You don't think that helped Lil Wayne sell mad units when MTV told everyone on their award show to go buy the Carter IV on ITunes? Imagine had Game got his mention also.
MTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.
The South didnt really have an identity until Crunk came along with the finger snappin and deep southern base. Eightball & MJG, Outkast, Bushwick Bill, Scarface were mostly rappin over Westcoast beats and some were even usin G-Funk tracks in the South in the 90's. Even when No Limit came along they were still "West Coast Bad Boyz."
On the East, Nas, LL, Naughty, Wu Tang, and B.I.G. was the big faces and they got their play.
Quote from: love33 on August 31, 2011, 06:15:20 PMQuote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 02:30:10 PMMTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.You don't think that helped Lil Wayne sell mad units when MTV told everyone on their award show to go buy the Carter IV on ITunes? Imagine had Game got his mention also.Sure it helped because all the little Jimmys and Jennys that are still in Junior High who still watch MTV will get their hands on it. But to true fans of music MTV is nothing more than a disappointment. I can still remember the days when they had like 4 or 5 different countdown shows playing different music throughout. These days you gotta tune into MTV2 in the butt crack of dawn to watch videos. Its a shame. MTV turned their back on music because they saw that the whole damn country was goo goo for reality TV. Okay BET came in and took advantage but that only lasted a few years. BET is BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. So you cant argue them making television series and movies and what not. Its their brand but MTV is MUSIC TELEVISION. They turned their back on the Music part. They dont even play the full length of the videos anymore.who cares about their award shows.
I agree with you that Jay-Z sells more right now, but it's also because:1. He has the whole city of NY behind him (walk into NY and say some of the shit people say here about Game calling him "fake," a "namedropper," "washed up," "irrelevant," whatever and poeple would smack you in NY if you said that about Jigga -- he gets mad respect on his territory) -- Game even said it in interviews, the biggest problem on the West is that the West hates the West. So a hot artist from Cali drops an album and only a quarter of the people support it. Where in the East and especially the South, the people support the artists. People love Jay-Z in NY. Go read some of the topics here and 50% of the people hate The Game. Except for 2Pac, there's barely any Westcoast artists that get close to a unanimous curtain call.2. Getting his main video banned (again) didn't help his cause -- the R.E.D. Nation being banned just cut right into his sales as that video was going to be the main piece that pushed the project. The Lil Wayne track he had on L.A.X. helped give him a late push --3. Game doesn't make shit off his mixtapes. His mixtapes don't put food on the table, but he has given us enough good free tracks the past year to make 3-4 good albums.4. He doesn't make nearly close to the amount of television appearances that Jay-Z gets.5. He doesn't get free promotion from ESPN all the time (Jay-Z gets mentioned on ESPN constantly because he owns the 40/40 club in NY and he owns part of the NJ Nets). The Sportscenter announcers even use his rhymes in their highlights and they show his face all the time like they are told to dickride him by their higher ups.6. Jay-Z gets more Hollywood mention because he is with Beyonce so TMZ is always following her around and when he's with her it keeps his name in people's mouths and his face in people's minds.7. Jay-Z has the largest media market in the country on his side. NY is the biggest media giant and pumps his music, promotes his local events. LA is no cow town either, but it's not nearly the mass size of the NY media market which also ties in the New Jersey market and outreaches all the way to DC and Boston. Covering that kind of population and the radio power gives any NY artist an advantage whether it's Jay-Z or LL Cool J. That's a machine over there and they always try to blow their own artists up rather than play everyone else's music like most of the West stations.And that's why I give him his props because nobody on the West is dropping the amount of quality material that Game has dropped all year on us that you can just pump into your cd player and let play. "Hoodmorning" and "Purp and Patron" were like album releases in themselves and they all fit the "R.E.D." theme Game has been working off of this year so you gotta give him props musically for being consistent in 2011.
Cross your fingers and close your eyes and pray "Hey will they invite my favorite rappers to the show or did Lady Gaga take their spot."
Quote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 06:46:01 PMQuote from: love33 on August 31, 2011, 06:15:20 PMQuote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 02:30:10 PMMTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.You don't think that helped Lil Wayne sell mad units when MTV told everyone on their award show to go buy the Carter IV on ITunes? Imagine had Game got his mention also.Sure it helped because all the little Jimmys and Jennys that are still in Junior High who still watch MTV will get their hands on it. But to true fans of music MTV is nothing more than a disappointment. I can still remember the days when they had like 4 or 5 different countdown shows playing different music throughout. These days you gotta tune into MTV2 in the butt crack of dawn to watch videos. Its a shame. MTV turned their back on music because they saw that the whole damn country was goo goo for reality TV. Okay BET came in and took advantage but that only lasted a few years. BET is BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. So you cant argue them making television series and movies and what not. Its their brand but MTV is MUSIC TELEVISION. They turned their back on the Music part. They dont even play the full length of the videos anymore.who cares about their award shows.I agree 100% about this post, but there's still something iconic about the Music Television Award Show. Call me old school, but back in the day there was something exciting about gettin home from school, puttin your backpack down, and throwin on mtv's most wanted to watch bill bellemy countdown cube, warren g, and dr dre videos....and when the award show comes there was that mad hype to see snoop, dogg pound, dre, warren g, and nate get on stage and run the show. Now, its a fraction of what the show used to represent amongst music culture. Cross your fingers and close your eyes and pray "Hey will they invite my favorite rappers to the show or did Lady Gaga take their spot."
what the hell u guys talking about mtv dont play no videos, am i the only one with mtv jams all they do is play videos. no need for trl when u got like 4 channels constantly playing videos, i rather watch teen mom anyway lol
Quote from: chicharo on August 31, 2011, 08:21:00 PMwhat the hell u guys talking about mtv dont play no videos, am i the only one with mtv jams all they do is play videos. no need for trl when u got like 4 channels constantly playing videos, i rather watch teen mom anyway lolYeah that seems to be a fact that gets overlooked a lot. MTV Jams actually plays some decent videos too from a lot of artists you wouldn't expect.
Quote from: love33 on August 31, 2011, 08:28:27 PMQuote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 06:46:01 PMQuote from: love33 on August 31, 2011, 06:15:20 PMQuote from: xxrayrayxx on August 31, 2011, 02:30:10 PMMTV has fell off. MTV IS NO LONGER RELAVENT. They dont even play music videos anymore. They only skim through a few of them. BET is on the same route that MTV went down too. ITs all about reality television. Why should it matter if Game was there or not.You don't think that helped Lil Wayne sell mad units when MTV told everyone on their award show to go buy the Carter IV on ITunes? Imagine had Game got his mention also.Sure it helped because all the little Jimmys and Jennys that are still in Junior High who still watch MTV will get their hands on it. But to true fans of music MTV is nothing more than a disappointment. I can still remember the days when they had like 4 or 5 different countdown shows playing different music throughout. These days you gotta tune into MTV2 in the butt crack of dawn to watch videos. Its a shame. MTV turned their back on music because they saw that the whole damn country was goo goo for reality TV. Okay BET came in and took advantage but that only lasted a few years. BET is BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. So you cant argue them making television series and movies and what not. Its their brand but MTV is MUSIC TELEVISION. They turned their back on the Music part. They dont even play the full length of the videos anymore.who cares about their award shows.I agree 100% about this post, but there's still something iconic about the Music Television Award Show. Call me old school, but back in the day there was something exciting about gettin home from school, puttin your backpack down, and throwin on mtv's most wanted to watch bill bellemy countdown cube, warren g, and dr dre videos....and when the award show comes there was that mad hype to see snoop, dogg pound, dre, warren g, and nate get on stage and run the show. Now, its a fraction of what the show used to represent amongst music culture. Cross your fingers and close your eyes and pray "Hey will they invite my favorite rappers to the show or did Lady Gaga take their spot."Gangsta rap was big in the 90s, now its not. The same reason you weren't seeing any alternative rappers on MTV "back in the day." Don't you think The Pharcyde fans in 1995 were pissed off that your cliche gangsta music was taking up all the spots?