G Malone Beach Crusier sells 2700 Units First Week (Westcoast Artist on Majors)

[Dikteta Dax]

A Cash Money Records joint-release with Suburban Noize and Sony Red, Glasses Malone's solo debut Beach Cruiser  made an appearance on the charts at #165. The South Central, Los Angeles native's long-delayed LP features Snoop Dogg, Rick Ross and early mentor Mack 10. Earlier this year, Glasses and Mack released Money Music.

165   Glasses Malone   Beach Cruiser 2,700 2,700

Thats less then, Kendrick & Dom Kennedy who put out there albums indy.  Less then Jay Rock and less then his album with Mack 10.

So with that being said would Glasses have pushed more if he dropped his album right after White Lightning Sticks or when he first signed to sony or cash money?  Should more artist stop trying to sign to the majors and just put out music indy?  Even though I don't believe the album came out on Cash Money at all, would he of did better numbers on a label like Strange Music?  What does that say for Tyga's young money debut?  Will artist like Roccet, 2eleven, Joe Moses, Young Hootie, etc ever drop albums on these major labels?  And if they do would the numbers be like Glasses.  I figure if cats is pushing the same numbers on there own then whats the point of being on a major besides the touring?

I got a homie that just signed to a major they gave him an okay singing bonus.  Like about the money you would make in 1 year being a GM at Radio shack or some shit.  But nobody outside of Los Angeles really knows who he is.  So with these cats with bigger names hardly selling, will these young cats getting these record deals ever see the light of day?  Will Cali Swag, Mann, YG, etc albums ever see the light of day?

[D-Nice]

I agree with everything said. The problem though with Glasses was he was already signed to CM/Hoo Bangin and was contractually obligated to drop a album. Now going forward nah I think he should go the indie route.

[PhunkyDoob]

The thing is most of the fans don't even know that he's signed with the label. You gotta remember Cash Money/Yung Money fans are generally very young and so they are usually very visual. So if they don't spot you
hanging around with the rest of the crew, see you perform on BET, see you doing features with Wayne and whatnot then to them you're not even apart of the crew. Plus Glasses doesn't have that character or alot of charisma (in their eyes) to where they can deem him as entertaining just like J. Cole.

Also you have to add the fact that alot of people weren't really familiar with Glasses anyway prior to the album, or those who was might've forgotten about him. That's usually what happens when you're album gets pushed back and you take time in between your projects (mixtapes/albums).

Roccett, 2eleven, Joe Moses and Young Hootie will never make it even to a Kendrick, Jay Rock or Nipsey level. Most of them are more image than music, more about being super tough and being real rather than dropping some music with any content that's not cliche.

[Dikteta Dax]

True, it never seemed like Cash Money put there all into promoting dude.  I guess it kinda has to do with the music he is making.  The album was enjoyable for me though but I gotta admit I'm not into the gangsta shit like I was when I first heard of glasses and was active in the streets and shit.  When he was on BWS I think if he would of got signed to Cash Money or if he could of got on Interscope with The Game Co-Sign he could actually got an album out and did some cool numbers.  Cause for one the industry was different and it was still on the gangsta shit low key.

[PhunkyDoob]

True, it never seemed like Cash Money put there all into promoting dude.  I guess it kinda has to do with the music he is making.  The album was enjoyable for me though but I gotta admit I'm not into the gangsta shit like I was when I first heard of glasses and was active in the streets and shit.  When he was on BWS I think if he would of got signed to Cash Money or if he could of got on Interscope with The Game Co-Sign he could actually got an album out and did some cool numbers.  Cause for one the industry was different and it was still on the gangsta shit low key.

True. Man can't believe that his first mixtape came out in like 2005, that's 6 years ago! Time really goes by hella fast. G. Malone ain't getting younger either
i think he should've gone indie way back or just rolled with BWS as a signed artist a little while to build up more steam on the coast and then make a move somewhere else.

Like i said alot of people aren't/weren't even familiar with Glasses and so i think one of the reasons he got a deal years before was because gangsta rap was poppin', the west had just dropped a success album
which did numbers (The Documentary) and plus Glasses had a lil buzz with his first mixtape and had a co-sign from Game. They tried to bank in on that way too fast but it took Glasses 6 years to come out with a solo.

I think he needs to realize that artists like him needs to build up their fanbases on their coast first and then look elsewhere. G Malone can't and will never win over the teeny bopper crowd he just can't and neither can Game, so his best bet is to cater to his demographic more and build fans that way. I'm sure that's why he did the joint venture with Baby cuz he figured Wayne was hot and Cash Money was winning so of course he'd get a larger fanbase..only difference is G Malone is not a "party-make-it-rain-swag" type rapper so they're not gonna buy his shit.

[xxrayrayxx]

Well after so many album delays people tend to stop caring. It sucks but Look what happened with Beach Cruiser. He had so many failed singles and the one single that actually caught a good buzz was "Certified" and they never took advantage. The album should have come out right then. But what are you gonna do, Mainstream doesnt give a shit about gangster rap. As long as we enjoy the music thats all that matters in my book. I dont think units really matter anymore, I dont need G Malone to go platinum for me to blast his album. At least he got it on the shelves.

[Dikteta Dax]

I'm not even talking about the album sales really, cause i'm going to check out the album regardless.  But I'm saying on a bigger picture as far as westcoast music, these labels and how artist choose to put there material out...

[ABN]

Beach Cruiser didnīt come out on a major though. if Universal had put it out then it probably wouldīve sold a little better.

[MistaNova]

Cali Sawg District released their album, shit was getting promoted at the store I went to so I think that'll sell more than Glasses did.

Mann's album was also released, only this forum doesn't give a fuck about new west coast artists that actually have a buzz on a mainstream level....

[JML-G]

Will Cali Swag, Mann, YG, etc albums ever see the light of day?

Mann already dropped his debut album with Def Jam

[yourdead]

Cali Sawg District released their album, shit was getting promoted at the store I went to so I think that'll sell more than Glasses did.

Mann's album was also released, only this forum doesn't give a fuck about new west coast artists that actually have a buzz on a mainstream level....

Cali Swag sold 2800 copies the first week...

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

He actually did drop on an indie

[Dikteta Dax]

I got the Mann album, didn't know if it was his official release or not.

And I know glasses dropped on an indy but they made it seem as if Cash Money was a big part of it. 

[BiggBoogaBiff]

people just lost interest really, it's the same thing that's gonna happen for "Detox" too (trust me when i say Interscope will be buying records).  


after a while it's "ehh", i'll download it but i'm not gonna buy it.  "when the sun comes up" was a pretty good single, i don't know why y'all are co-signing "certified" just becuz Akon was on tha single.  


that "mack and malone" album reached it's full potential in my eyes.  it really couldn't have done any better than what it did and what it did wasn't a bad in my eyes.



and last, why doesn't everybody come to terms with reality.  if your shit is on the internet then it's as exposed and promoted as it's gonna be, why niggaz still act like all u need is a prime time spot on tv and the rush hour traffic radio spot is backwards thinking.  fact is if your shit on here (somewhat but barely), ahh, sohh, wshh, hhdx, rrt, and Sucker Free Sunday, then your shit is pretty much promoted to it's full potential.  people spend more time on the computer/phone then they do watching tv and listening to tha radio.  


i think some of yall let Young Money/Brick Squad/and the South in general intimidate yall a little too much.  i know they kinda have a SLIGHT advantage but at the end of tha day nobody can say that they cheated (aside from Wayne getting 18 nominations this year at tha Hip Hop Awards - nonsense).  at the end of tha day if you don't have that "it" factor then you can't blame people for not buying your music (that doesn't mean that people don't support your movement).  


4 most Rap music/music is an expensive hobby, for others it's a career.  it's a cop out when somebody new drops an album and doesn't do as well as they expected.  that's why i always try 2 put my personal feelings aside when i talk about shit like this.  with that said i still fuck with Glasses Malone.  he should've struck the iron back in 06' when he was hot and relevant but "you live and you learn".  They just released his album so he could get free from his contract (and since Ca$h Money never held anybody back really, they just let him do him). 



and u can say pretty much tha same thing for WideAwake/Death Row.  the only difference is that they're a "collector's memorabilia" label so it's not really in tha same category as a new artist. 

[xxrayrayxx]

I got my hands on the Mann album too. I thought it was a short album but still good. Malone's Album is good too. I thought Hoo Bangin'/Cash Money/Universal was the label Beach Cruiser was put out through. That is considered major. Unless Im mistaken.