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Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 11:59:10 AMThis is why you fans are retarded. Basically, their "bitches" for choosing to win over getting paid tens of millions of dollars more. Something you same fans bitch about when people leave teams because they didn't get enough money.& Kobe's ENTIRE legacy is because of Shaq. If Kobe never wins that threepeat, which he couldn't of done without Shaq & just has his recent rings, he's a "great player". They split up after they took the L. But you're acting like they weren't together for three rings. I'll speak like you're speaking, "If Kobe wasn't such a little fucking bitch, he would of left in '99, when he realized him & Shaq were dominate".& LMFAO @ saying Bird & Magic. Like half of their respective rosters aren't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, they were the best players, but their supporting casts were incredible.You're a hypocrite though. If LeBron said, "I'm taking my talents to my nigga Kobe in LA" & he wins, you'd be on his nuts saying he might be the greatest thing to ever touch the court. But he set himself up to win somewhere else & you're mad that he's more than likely gunna win.u dont get it, do u, fagboy? kobe never ran behind shaq to win him a championship, he was drafted to that team. when it was evident that kobe was great enough 2 lead a team 2 the promise land on his own, him and shaq started having problems and they eventually SPLIT. lebron doesnt have that spice in him, to want to feel like "the man", because deep down, he KNOWS he is incapable of leading the way...THATS WHY HE TUCKED HIS TAIL AND RAN BEHIND WADE N BOSH, TWO FRANCHISE PLAYERS. If he ran to LA to play behind Kobe, it would be the same exact story.
This is why you fans are retarded. Basically, their "bitches" for choosing to win over getting paid tens of millions of dollars more. Something you same fans bitch about when people leave teams because they didn't get enough money.& Kobe's ENTIRE legacy is because of Shaq. If Kobe never wins that threepeat, which he couldn't of done without Shaq & just has his recent rings, he's a "great player". They split up after they took the L. But you're acting like they weren't together for three rings. I'll speak like you're speaking, "If Kobe wasn't such a little fucking bitch, he would of left in '99, when he realized him & Shaq were dominate".& LMFAO @ saying Bird & Magic. Like half of their respective rosters aren't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, they were the best players, but their supporting casts were incredible.You're a hypocrite though. If LeBron said, "I'm taking my talents to my nigga Kobe in LA" & he wins, you'd be on his nuts saying he might be the greatest thing to ever touch the court. But he set himself up to win somewhere else & you're mad that he's more than likely gunna win.
Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more.
Quote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 02:22:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.lmao smh
Quote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 03:06:57 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 02:22:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.lmao smhhow is that a smh. The only Smh in that statement is Bynum Wilt Jr. and Meta World peace is more than a great defender thats an understatement. it was shown this year Gibson sucks without Lebron. Artest & Odom have both proven they are great without Kobe. Lebron asked for dumb trades thats a given. But if you think Lebron had a team with a chance of winning your crazy. You have to have a supporting cast. I mean it was better than playing with the Pistons or Bobcats but still the only player worth mentioning on Cleveland is Anderson Varejao who Gasol, Bynum & Odom all better than. Yet again why can't you people agree to disagree and talk about a different subject. obviously Cham likes Lebron and Nik & Loon3y like Kobe....there is a lot more to basketball than them. I'm hoping this season happens Blazers are finally starting to look good between Aldridge, Wallace, Roy, Batum, Camby, Felton, & Mathews there is some good talent. If Roy gets back to his old self i see us as one of the top teams in all the NBA.FUCK THE THUNDER & OKLAHOMA CITY.
Quote from: rayallen0 on November 05, 2011, 05:18:06 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 03:06:57 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 02:22:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.lmao smhhow is that a smh. The only Smh in that statement is Bynum Wilt Jr. and Meta World peace is more than a great defender thats an understatement. it was shown this year Gibson sucks without Lebron. Artest & Odom have both proven they are great without Kobe. Lebron asked for dumb trades thats a given. But if you think Lebron had a team with a chance of winning your crazy. You have to have a supporting cast. I mean it was better than playing with the Pistons or Bobcats but still the only player worth mentioning on Cleveland is Anderson Varejao who Gasol, Bynum & Odom all better than. Yet again why can't you people agree to disagree and talk about a different subject. obviously Cham likes Lebron and Nik & Loon3y like Kobe....there is a lot more to basketball than them. I'm hoping this season happens Blazers are finally starting to look good between Aldridge, Wallace, Roy, Batum, Camby, Felton, & Mathews there is some good talent. If Roy gets back to his old self i see us as one of the top teams in all the NBA.FUCK THE THUNDER & OKLAHOMA CITY.so Odom, Bynum, and Artest are all franchise players? LMFAO. i say smh, because he acts like the Lakers have some amazing hall-of-fame cast, when we clearly dont...Kobe was winning titles with less than what Jordan had. LeBron had a team that was picked to win, EVERY year. they were said to be the DEEPEST, STRONGEST DEFENSIVE unit by analysts around the world the last few years going into the playoffs...then when they flop, the media and LeBron jockers turn around and claim LeBron was let down, when it's ALWAYS the other way around. fuck that shit...LeBron coulda won in Cleveland. they were fucking 60 win teams and some of the best defensive teams in the league. in his last year with Cleveland, he was playing with TWO all-stars. he coulda done it, he just dont got the balls...all there is to it.
Quote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 06:04:18 PMQuote from: rayallen0 on November 05, 2011, 05:18:06 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 03:06:57 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 02:22:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.lmao smhhow is that a smh. The only Smh in that statement is Bynum Wilt Jr. and Meta World peace is more than a great defender thats an understatement. it was shown this year Gibson sucks without Lebron. Artest & Odom have both proven they are great without Kobe. Lebron asked for dumb trades thats a given. But if you think Lebron had a team with a chance of winning your crazy. You have to have a supporting cast. I mean it was better than playing with the Pistons or Bobcats but still the only player worth mentioning on Cleveland is Anderson Varejao who Gasol, Bynum & Odom all better than. Yet again why can't you people agree to disagree and talk about a different subject. obviously Cham likes Lebron and Nik & Loon3y like Kobe....there is a lot more to basketball than them. I'm hoping this season happens Blazers are finally starting to look good between Aldridge, Wallace, Roy, Batum, Camby, Felton, & Mathews there is some good talent. If Roy gets back to his old self i see us as one of the top teams in all the NBA.FUCK THE THUNDER & OKLAHOMA CITY.so Odom, Bynum, and Artest are all franchise players? LMFAO. i say smh, because he acts like the Lakers have some amazing hall-of-fame cast, when we clearly dont...Kobe was winning titles with less than what Jordan had. LeBron had a team that was picked to win, EVERY year. they were said to be the DEEPEST, STRONGEST DEFENSIVE unit by analysts around the world the last few years going into the playoffs...then when they flop, the media and LeBron jockers turn around and claim LeBron was let down, when it's ALWAYS the other way around. fuck that shit...LeBron coulda won in Cleveland. they were fucking 60 win teams and some of the best defensive teams in the league. in his last year with Cleveland, he was playing with TWO all-stars. he coulda done it, he just dont got the balls...all there is to it.I don't like LeBron at all, but I don't know how you can say his supporting cast was as good as Kobe's. As a Kobe fan myself I would much rather have him play (through the years) with guys like Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Odom, and Ariza than Jamison, Williams, Hughes, West, and Illgauskas. I'll give you that the Cavs probably had a deeper bench than LA, and that injuries to Bynum and Ariza hurt LA on a few occasions, but overall I'd much rather have the Lakers team even if analysts called the Cavs the "strongest" team. As much as I enjoyed watching LeBron choke in the finals last year, I don't think it's fair to say his Cavs supporting cast had the same kind of fire power that Kobe's did.
Quote from: TheRemedy360Resurrection on November 05, 2011, 07:42:40 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 06:04:18 PMQuote from: rayallen0 on November 05, 2011, 05:18:06 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 03:06:57 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 02:22:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on November 05, 2011, 02:13:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 01:07:05 PM Kobe had better than Daniel Gibson & he didn't lead no Laker team to the NBA Finals.wtf u talkin bout? kobe led the Lakers to the Finals 3 consecutive years, from '08-'10.......u aint even worthy of replies no more. Oh, yeah. I guess he did lead Andrew Bynum ("Wilt Jr."), Pau Gasol (All-star), Ron Artest (great defender), Lamar Odom (would start on every other team in the NBA) & Derek Fisher (experienced veteran) to the Finals. Like I said, those years alone showed who Kobe was.lmao smhhow is that a smh. The only Smh in that statement is Bynum Wilt Jr. and Meta World peace is more than a great defender thats an understatement. it was shown this year Gibson sucks without Lebron. Artest & Odom have both proven they are great without Kobe. Lebron asked for dumb trades thats a given. But if you think Lebron had a team with a chance of winning your crazy. You have to have a supporting cast. I mean it was better than playing with the Pistons or Bobcats but still the only player worth mentioning on Cleveland is Anderson Varejao who Gasol, Bynum & Odom all better than. Yet again why can't you people agree to disagree and talk about a different subject. obviously Cham likes Lebron and Nik & Loon3y like Kobe....there is a lot more to basketball than them. I'm hoping this season happens Blazers are finally starting to look good between Aldridge, Wallace, Roy, Batum, Camby, Felton, & Mathews there is some good talent. If Roy gets back to his old self i see us as one of the top teams in all the NBA.FUCK THE THUNDER & OKLAHOMA CITY.so Odom, Bynum, and Artest are all franchise players? LMFAO. i say smh, because he acts like the Lakers have some amazing hall-of-fame cast, when we clearly dont...Kobe was winning titles with less than what Jordan had. LeBron had a team that was picked to win, EVERY year. they were said to be the DEEPEST, STRONGEST DEFENSIVE unit by analysts around the world the last few years going into the playoffs...then when they flop, the media and LeBron jockers turn around and claim LeBron was let down, when it's ALWAYS the other way around. fuck that shit...LeBron coulda won in Cleveland. they were fucking 60 win teams and some of the best defensive teams in the league. in his last year with Cleveland, he was playing with TWO all-stars. he coulda done it, he just dont got the balls...all there is to it.I don't like LeBron at all, but I don't know how you can say his supporting cast was as good as Kobe's. As a Kobe fan myself I would much rather have him play (through the years) with guys like Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Odom, and Ariza than Jamison, Williams, Hughes, West, and Illgauskas. I'll give you that the Cavs probably had a deeper bench than LA, and that injuries to Bynum and Ariza hurt LA on a few occasions, but overall I'd much rather have the Lakers team even if analysts called the Cavs the "strongest" team. As much as I enjoyed watching LeBron choke in the finals last year, I don't think it's fair to say his Cavs supporting cast had the same kind of fire power that Kobe's did.i never said they were as strong, but that doesnt mean they weren't built to win...they were a defensive unit who revolved around LeBron. that was their game-plan and the way they wanted it. they had the tools to win, they were actually favored to win it all the last 2 years that they lost. that just shows u how media perception influences decision. Varaejo was on the all defensive team, Mo Williams was on fire and was an all-star (Odom wasn't), Antawn Jamison was a 20-10 guy as a franchise player, Ilgauskas was a nice back-up center, Delonte West was a strong perimeter defender, Anthony Parker was a veteran presence ala Fisher...during the regular season, they allowed less points than any other team. Everyone was saying how great they were, and then once LeBron quit on them, all of a sudden everyone's tune changed and all of a sudden "they sucked"...dont get me wrong, i never thought they were that great to begin with, but to say they didnt have enough firepower to win starts and ends with LeBron James. If that were Magic, Michael, Kobe, Bird, etc leading those teams, they had more than enough to win....thats what im sayin. At the very least, they shoulda EASILY handled Boston in LeBron's last year with Cleveland.
^point is, if he doesnt quit on his team, the Cavs make the Finals that year...people sitting here and acting like they had some inadequate team when every analyst had them picked to go to the Finals is beyond me...then this Cham kid wants to come on here and compare those 60 win LeBron teams to Kobe's D-League teams with Kwame, Smush, and Luke as starters lmao.