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Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« on: November 13, 2011, 02:18:35 AM »
Tonight's fight completely cements the theory that Arum did NOT want to see his big time fighter face Mayweather.  Floyd afraid of that piece of shit?  Get the fuck out of here. 
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 11:07:40 AM »
Tonight's fight completely cements the theory that Arum did NOT want to see his big time fighter face Mayweather.  Floyd afraid of that piece of shit?  Get the fuck out of here. 
calling someone who could kick your ass a piece of shit is hilarious. Internet give people confidence i guess
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 12:47:47 PM »
I'm talking about his skills.  They're clearly a joke.  He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight.  Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills?  Please!  People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac. 
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 01:03:42 PM »
I'm talking about his skills.  They're clearly a joke.  He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight.  Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills?  Please!  People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac. 
he did bad in 1 fight so he has no skills? any man who beats Hatton in 2 rounds isnt a scrub. I know Mayweather is hip hops choice cuz he is black and cocky and 50 cents homie but can we please get people who respect the sport of boxing? Tyson lost fights does he suck? Ali did does he suck? 06-09 is an undeniable reign of greatness by him. Mayweather dominated from 98-07. No one here talks about boxers that arent manny or floyd.. Sergio Martínez is the #1 boxer in the world IMO but i don't think i've ever heard anybody talk about him. If i mentioned Glen Johnson or even fucking Felix Trinidad people would be clueless.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 01:34:28 PM »
Pacman probably wouldn't throw a cheap shot when he didn't need to.

If Mayweather and Pacman ever do fight I know who I want to see get knocked out.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 03:22:38 PM »
I'm talking about his skills.  They're clearly a joke.  He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight.  Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills?  Please!  People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac.  
he did bad in 1 fight so he has no skills? any man who beats Hatton in 2 rounds isnt a scrub.

Hatton was a brawler who was already done, anyone who followed the build up to the Mayweather fight knows how much he truly believed he would win that fight and instead he got schooled on the biggest stage, the Pacman fight was summed up by the awful camp whereby he was meant to have become a better boxer instead he came out the same old brawler looking for a knockout and he got schooled again. Could've named somebody better
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 03:27:17 PM by Makaveli's Food & Liquor »
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 03:50:46 PM »
I'm talking about his skills.  They're clearly a joke.  He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight.  Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills?  Please!  People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac.  
he did bad in 1 fight so he has no skills? any man who beats Hatton in 2 rounds isnt a scrub.

Hatton was a brawler who was already done, anyone who followed the build up to the Mayweather fight knows how much he truly believed he would win that fight and instead he got schooled on the biggest stage, the Pacman fight was summed up by the awful camp whereby he was meant to have become a better boxer instead he came out the same old brawler looking for a knockout and he got schooled again. Could've named somebody better

Did you watch him fight in before Mayweather? the amazing year he had in 05?  :o

45-2...so manny had 1 of his 2 losses and did it in 1/5 the time it took Floyd. he murdered Kostya Tszyu...I really think if i dont say Money Mayweather you guys will think the fighter is a scrub.
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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 07:18:30 PM »
Boxing is dead. an undefeated record shouldnt happen. It would never happen in MMA because they give the fans the best fight they can. there isnt 23215321 different championship belts.

I've got to see Anderson Silva face top fighters like Leben, Franklin, Marquardt, Henderson, Leites (Who should still be in the UFC bullshit release), Griffin, Maia, Sonnen, Belfort & Okami. these are #1 contenders not a replacement cuz 2 fighters didnt want to have a scratch on their record. Dana White would take away the belt if they refused the fight. Boxing doesnt care about its fans. It is sad, i have loved boxing for a long time but the way they treat their fans is ridic.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 07:41:41 PM »
I can't get into MMA either. I just like Jon Jones. ;D
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 07:45:07 PM »
I don't know. With the exception of Marquez, Pacquiao has done better with opponents that Mayweather has fought as well. I think Pacquiao is finally wearing down a lil bit. He has been in more wars than Mayweather, that's for sure. Mayweather is notorious for fighting people when they're no longer in their prime. I think last night's fight brings the chance of the mega fight happening becoming better than ever.

And rayallen is on point: politics and not giving fans what the want is why boxing has been suffering lately. However, to call it dead is ridiculous. It's not dead, it is in a dark age though. Lack of solid feuds, lack of exciting new talent and politics is what's hurting it. The talent issue should improve in time (particularly in the heavyweight division). The fact that everyone seems to be a champion is an issue as well since it diminishes the importance of being a champion.

I'm a fan of both MMA and boxing. Both are unique art forms in their own right. It's kind of annoying when people try and compare the two and say one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 09:40:59 PM »
I don't know. With the exception of Marquez, Pacquiao has done better with opponents that Mayweather has fought as well. I think Pacquiao is finally wearing down a lil bit. He has been in more wars than Mayweather, that's for sure. Mayweather is notorious for fighting people when they're no longer in their prime. I think last night's fight brings the chance of the mega fight happening becoming better than ever.

And rayallen is on point: politics and not giving fans what the want is why boxing has been suffering lately. However, to call it dead is ridiculous. It's not dead, it is in a dark age though. Lack of solid feuds, lack of exciting new talent and politics is what's hurting it. The talent issue should improve in time (particularly in the heavyweight division). The fact that everyone seems to be a champion is an issue as well since it diminishes the importance of being a champion.

I'm a fan of both MMA and boxing. Both are unique art forms in their own right. It's kind of annoying when people try and compare the two and say one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons.
I'm a boxing fan but it is losing alot of its fan base to MMA because people are tired of paying $70 and only seeing one fight they care about. I am in no way saying you can't watch both I'm just saying people are strictly watching MMA now because of how people like Dana treats his fans.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 09:59:30 PM »
I'm talking about his skills.  They're clearly a joke.  He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight.  Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills?  Please!  People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac. 
he did bad in 1 fight so he has no skills? any man who beats Hatton in 2 rounds isnt a scrub. I know Mayweather is hip hops choice cuz he is black and cocky and 50 cents homie but can we please get people who respect the sport of boxing? Tyson lost fights does he suck? Ali did does he suck? 06-09 is an undeniable reign of greatness by him. Mayweather dominated from 98-07. No one here talks about boxers that arent manny or floyd.. Sergio Martínez is the #1 boxer in the world IMO but i don't think i've ever heard anybody talk about him. If i mentioned Glen Johnson or even fucking Felix Trinidad people would be clueless.


That's exactly right, he has no boxing skills.  This is the first time he faces an opponent with actual good movement since the 2nd Marquez fight.  Not somebody that sits back in his defensive shell like Clottey, no footwork like who just came off a war with Margarito like Cotto, a stand still brawler like Margarito an already exposed Hatton, or a drained De La Hoya at 147 (weight that he hasn't been at since 2001).  I give him props for Diaz and Mosley(even though Mosley didn't really move like he always does) though.  Pac would have been exposed a long time ago by Mayweather, if Top Rank wasn't protecting him. 
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 11:34:55 PM »
I don't know. With the exception of Marquez, Pacquiao has done better with opponents that Mayweather has fought as well. I think Pacquiao is finally wearing down a lil bit. He has been in more wars than Mayweather, that's for sure. Mayweather is notorious for fighting people when they're no longer in their prime. I think last night's fight brings the chance of the mega fight happening becoming better than ever.

And rayallen is on point: politics and not giving fans what the want is why boxing has been suffering lately. However, to call it dead is ridiculous. It's not dead, it is in a dark age though. Lack of solid feuds, lack of exciting new talent and politics is what's hurting it. The talent issue should improve in time (particularly in the heavyweight division). The fact that everyone seems to be a champion is an issue as well since it diminishes the importance of being a champion.

I'm a fan of both MMA and boxing. Both are unique art forms in their own right. It's kind of annoying when people try and compare the two and say one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons.
I'm a boxing fan but it is losing alot of its fan base to MMA because people are tired of paying $70 and only seeing one fight they care about. I am in no way saying you can't watch both I'm just saying people are strictly watching MMA now because of how people like Dana treats his fans.

You can't compare boxing and mma. But you can compare the way they are being presented to the fans. And in that regard the UFC blows any boxing event out of the water. The best fights possible are constantly being set up. And they are usually surrounded by solid cards. We don't have to wonder for years who the best fighter in a division is. Its the person holding the only belt that matters. And if not, its the person about to take it from them.
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 12:09:56 AM »
This is true. The under card is usually a disaster for boxing events. The only decent undercard bout for Pacquiao/Marquez was the second fight with Alvarado fighting that Colombian dude with the jeri curl. Alvarado was getting shit on untilhis lip exploded and then he finally started whoopin ass.

Anybody got a feeling that UFC could be shooting itself int he foot by having so many events almost every week? They're gonna run outta match ups a few years down the road potentially. Then again, they have a monopoly on MMA and can bring any talent in (i.e. Overeem, Diaz brothers, etc.)
 

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Re: Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 01:05:35 AM »
I think its oversaturation at this point. I watch the fights every week, but I'm way less excited for an individual event, compared to how I would be if I had to wait a while to watch one.