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Quote from: rayallen0 on November 18, 2011, 03:05:39 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 02:53:35 PMQuote from: rayallen0 on November 18, 2011, 02:36:57 PMDrake has deeper songs than nelly ever did...nellys shit was just rapping bout sterotypical love songs/breakups. drakes are actually self reflective and talk about whats actually going on in his life. not sure if id say deep...he comes off as real self absorbed id like for him at some point in his career expand his topics to talk about more shit but he drops some ill liness every now and again...he had a few songs with some really dope bars on his new shit.He raps about what he knows. tired or rappers trying to relate to shit they know nothing about.thats actually the opposite of deep...shallow. i like a few of his shits but to say hes a deep lyricist is giving duke way too much credit. ppl compare his emo ness to pacs but when has drake made a record with a message or a universal truth in it?...that aint happened yet. when it does it will be the turning point of his career.Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on November 18, 2011, 02:58:14 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 02:31:36 PMdog look at the sweat suit album then that piece of shit album he did called brass knuckles then look at the shit nelly is doing now (the wack song with TI)remember that queer ass song nelly did with shyheem or what ever that crooning dudes name was?im not saying they sound the same im saying basically that he is this generations version of nelly....they approach all they shit from the same angle. i had to google brain austin green thats actually a good comparison if you take out the success drakes had out of the equasion.drake is a WAYYY better rapper then nelly ever was too.You forget most of his music was that country grammar shit. Having a couple soft songs on a later album doesn't suddenly make him Drake. Drake's entire style is being soft. Nelly experimented with a couple songs. Just like Snoop did.yeah i aint gonna front he did come out on some gangsta shit but he had them super poppy joints on his debut too. (must be the money)remember nellys mananger was cudda love and cudda is also mases manager turning nelly into a sweetheart was always the plan...ive heard tracks they did pre universal and i shit you not nellys rapping about guns and drugs and shit lolthat makes the comparison even more relevant becasue when drake first came out on his first cpl mixtapes he was rapping his ass off and way more lyrical he also had to cross over for success.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 02:53:35 PMQuote from: rayallen0 on November 18, 2011, 02:36:57 PMDrake has deeper songs than nelly ever did...nellys shit was just rapping bout sterotypical love songs/breakups. drakes are actually self reflective and talk about whats actually going on in his life. not sure if id say deep...he comes off as real self absorbed id like for him at some point in his career expand his topics to talk about more shit but he drops some ill liness every now and again...he had a few songs with some really dope bars on his new shit.He raps about what he knows. tired or rappers trying to relate to shit they know nothing about.
Quote from: rayallen0 on November 18, 2011, 02:36:57 PMDrake has deeper songs than nelly ever did...nellys shit was just rapping bout sterotypical love songs/breakups. drakes are actually self reflective and talk about whats actually going on in his life. not sure if id say deep...he comes off as real self absorbed id like for him at some point in his career expand his topics to talk about more shit but he drops some ill liness every now and again...he had a few songs with some really dope bars on his new shit.
Drake has deeper songs than nelly ever did...nellys shit was just rapping bout sterotypical love songs/breakups. drakes are actually self reflective and talk about whats actually going on in his life.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 02:31:36 PMdog look at the sweat suit album then that piece of shit album he did called brass knuckles then look at the shit nelly is doing now (the wack song with TI)remember that queer ass song nelly did with shyheem or what ever that crooning dudes name was?im not saying they sound the same im saying basically that he is this generations version of nelly....they approach all they shit from the same angle. i had to google brain austin green thats actually a good comparison if you take out the success drakes had out of the equasion.drake is a WAYYY better rapper then nelly ever was too.You forget most of his music was that country grammar shit. Having a couple soft songs on a later album doesn't suddenly make him Drake. Drake's entire style is being soft. Nelly experimented with a couple songs. Just like Snoop did.
dog look at the sweat suit album then that piece of shit album he did called brass knuckles then look at the shit nelly is doing now (the wack song with TI)remember that queer ass song nelly did with shyheem or what ever that crooning dudes name was?im not saying they sound the same im saying basically that he is this generations version of nelly....they approach all they shit from the same angle. i had to google brain austin green thats actually a good comparison if you take out the success drakes had out of the equasion.drake is a WAYYY better rapper then nelly ever was too.
i just hope drake dont start rapping with his fucking shirt off...that shit is so sickening lol i think ive seen nellys nipples more then ive seen my own.nohomoand give drake props for not shoving his wack ass team down your throat like nelly did the st lunatics.wackest niggas ever.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 02:45:39 PMi just hope drake dont start rapping with his fucking shirt off...that shit is so sickening lol i think ive seen nellys nipples more then ive seen my own.nohomoand give drake props for not shoving his wack ass team down your throat like nelly did the st lunatics.wackest niggas ever.sorry petey got to stop you there ST. LUNATICS are not even close to wack . the wackest niggas ever is gucci man & his whole crew . the st lunatics are 10x better then gucci man & his whole crew , ludacris DTp artists , & T.i's PSC ! NElly never had wack team ever !st lunatics are still making dope music but you would have no idea since you are not from st louis like me. also the nelly's new song with T.I.is not wack at all . you just can't understand it because you are not country azz nigga like me ,nelly ,t.i.,big k.r.i.t. & most of people in the midwest & the south. a song is not wack because you don't understand it ! stop hating on my mans nelly . it is not cool look & no drake is not even close to being a nelly or LL cool j . because LL cool J & nelly both came from the hood . while drake never came from the hood & is from stupid ass gay teen tv show . drake is wack compared to LL cool J & nelly . nelly started a movement while drake did not start shit .
lmao at this dude...im from the midwest raised in chicago and the D and still lives in michigan now...nelly and his team did what they did but he fucked up yall legacy by turning his movement into some pop shit. at least drake came out on some cotton candy shit, you prolly like chingy wack ass too. ppl will always relate st louis hip hop to gimmicky ass bandaids and grills and shit now.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on November 18, 2011, 10:44:15 PMlmao at this dude...im from the midwest raised in chicago and the D and still lives in michigan now...nelly and his team did what they did but he fucked up yall legacy by turning his movement into some pop shit. at least drake came out on some cotton candy shit, you prolly like chingy wack ass too. ppl will always relate st louis hip hop to gimmicky ass bandaids and grills and shit now.don't ever put st louis hip hop with grills. grillz are texas & down south . also nothing about chicago is country . so you can't understand if your from such a shitty place as chicago. no one puts st louis hip hop to gimmicky ass bandaids .nelly quit wearing bandaids over 5 years ago & no nelly did not turn his movement into some pop shit at all . as you said Nelly is todays LL cool J & LL cool j is not pop or soft .see what you don't get is st louis hip hop is a life & well in st.louis.chingy was never that bad . if you said jibbs ,i would understand it . murphy lee is putting out some dope work these days.
i just hope drake dont start rapping with his fucking shirt off...that shit is so sickening lol i think ive seen nellys nipples more then ive seen my own.
You should compare drake to Brian Austin green, I know that equal wish he would have first dropped now.yell
remember nellys mananger was cudda love and cudda is also mases manager turning nelly into a sweetheart was always the plan...ive heard tracks they did pre universal and i shit you not nellys rapping about guns and drugs and shit lol
don't ever put st louis hip hop with grills. grillz are texas & down south . also nothing about chicago is country . so you can't understand if your from such a shitty place as chicago. no one puts st louis hip hop to gimmicky ass bandaids .nelly quit wearing bandaids over 5 years ago & no nelly did not turn his movement into some pop shit at all . as you said Nelly is todays LL cool J & LL cool j is not pop or soft .see what you don't get is st louis hip hop is a life & well in st.louis.chingy was never that bad . if you said jibbs ,i would understand it . murphy lee is putting out some dope work these days.
Nelly's music was at least listenable. I can't even listen to any of the garbage that Young Money is putting out. But regardless, both Nelly and Drake make music for the bitches. I've always like rappers who made music the male hip-hop fans. Artists like Xzibit and Nas for example never really had that many female fans, because the majority of their tracks are hard shit that women can't really get into as much.Chuck D used to say that back in the day when he was choosing tracks for his album, he would play it for his girl, and whatever songs she liked he'd cut from the album, and whatever tracks she didn't like he would add to the album.
my homie and i was talking about this the otherday and i wondered what yall thought...i dont see that theres a difference between what drakes doing now and the shit nelly did early 2000s but it was acceptable then becasue thats when half yall was getting your cherries popped lol i know some of yall wore grills and bandaids and all that shit some of yall probably got your first pairs of AF1s of the strength of that nelly song. i think the hate for drake is more or less a reflection of how the older hip hop heads feel about the younger emo generation. alot of that music is nauseatingly soft, i cant sit through the whole "im proud of you" song shits just to sappy even for an r and b fan like me but i gotta give props where props is due...them dudes are starting a whole new soundcoming from toronto and now american producers are emulating it. (not sure if its good or bad)the gothic chords over filtered drums is the signature toronto sound and the US hip hop scene is outsourcing like a motherfucker to get it, what im asking yall is how is the shit drakes doing different then what nelly or even a rapper like mase did? and them dudes went multi plat i know some of yall drake haters have them albums in your collection.take care is still one of the best mainstream albums to drop this year.
I was a teenager when Nelly first came out. His music was the shit back in the day. Everybody was loving that laid back rap/singing style of his.