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UK to start WAR with Iran (possible attack)

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David Mack:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 02, 2011, 04:58:01 AM ---
There is good and bad in every nation and in some respects the likes of Syria, Libya were more free, certainly in the case of Libya received more help and were more affluent than us. No nation is wholly evil it's parasitic elements within that tare but the point is the invasion and destruction of nations is evil, worse still when said nation cannot defend itself. I do though disagree regarding suckering in China because since Libya was an important asset to China, then if they had wished to they could have vetoed at the UN but instead they didn't. This tells me that a back room deal was worked out in which China agreed to the overthrow of the political regime operating in Libya.

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I think the overthrow would have taken place with or without UN approval. UN is a big joke anyway.  But u maybe right on the back deal but that doesn't mean that US/China tensions are boiling over.

As far as painting the countries in subject as saints................I'm not. Tyranny exists in every nation but that also includes the west. Dictators control people by the threat of physical force............."democracies" control the minds of people by the means of propoganda. I think the latter is more dangerous since the public is led to believe in a false sense of security while in the background corruption/chaos is occurring (ie the current economic state of Europe and US brought upon by Central banks/off-shore banking Cartels and Wall street). We shouldn't support one side or another in this struggle but support the general populace on both sides who are getting the short end of the stick.

7even:

--- Quote from: V2DHeart on December 02, 2011, 09:34:02 AM ---I'm not saying that middle eastern countries leadership are any better or worse than ours, but one thing's for sure, their society is far better, more civilized, friendlier, and safer than in the UK or US (Iran we're talking about) they don't have the social problems, the drug issues, and lack of respect in the youth over there, so they must be doing something right... Anyone remember Iraq before and after the invasion? Before the invasion, illegal drug use was very rare, and after the US & UK invasion it was pretty much everywhere. Anyone ever been to Iran or Libya before?
 
UK & US can't go around policing the world, and bullying people into sanctions "they" create from thin air. If I were Iran, I too would be racing to make a nuclear deterrent, after seeing Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya bullied into giving up their countries. The West may get oil from it, but they're pushing those countries into a degree of unresolvable scarring, and control of banks with no other motive than to have an evil grip on them forever. Anyone who's tried to escape it's grip and come together, to create laws, or even pay back these people are assassinated (see: Lincoln, and JFK)
 
Iran is bigger than the UK, but like Russia, most of their country is unoccupied by anyone. I think Iran has a population of around 72 mil, while UK has around 66 mil. Not much of a difference, and when you put the military spending power in place, UK being 3rd or 4th in the world, it's not a fair fight, especially when they bring along the rest of it's buddies (US, & France) along to the party as well

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You conveniently choose to ignore a few things here and there. Like, for instance, the reason why those countries feature less drug abuse and less respectless youth. Precisely one reason: Less freedom, more/stricter sanctions. If young foreigners would act in Iran like they act in Western Europe, they'd be dealt with real quick. Over here everything gets tolerated to some degree, including things that shouldn't be tolerated, but also things that should be when they aren't in the middle east. I probably couldn't kiss my girlfriend in public without going to jail.
It's not like people are so pure from vainful things that they don't use drugs or do stupid shit, they just can't cause the sanctions are way more severe, both socially and legally. Your own brother might kill you if you fuck some random ass nigga you're not married to. So of course they ain't gon sleep around while doing cocaine during club nights. Doesn't mean they wouldn't want to.
In all honesty I don't even think you believe that shit, you're just a typical liberal white guilt type of nigga. I'm willing to the bet all the money I have that you prefer to live in the UK. You might enjoy a protected and well planned journey here and there, but you damn sure ain't keen on spending your life in such countries. You also conveniently ignore the fact that Sarkozy and Cameron were treated like heroes by a good portion of Libya's population. I assume there's a reason for that. But I believe you probably assume those were paid guys to spread propaganda on us.
Also, going to war can't be THAT profitable for the west, as most countries are in a terrible spot now compared to the 90s

The_Ripper:
WE WANT WAR!

V2DHeart:
I'd prefer to raise my children in those countries than in the UK, beause they wouldn't be surrounded by a decaying society. I don't know how it is where you live exactly, but where I live, there are more broken familys than unbroken ones, and the country is far too soft on people here. It does have great education, even better than Iran or Libya, but right now, a lot of children will be put off by going to University due to the increased costs

My grandfather lived in Libya in the 80's and 90's due to working there, and he always said how nice it was, how different it was, and that the people there actually loved gadaffi as a leader despite what has been said here. That was clearly seen by the amount of everyday person out fighting for him til the death... How many would do that for Cameron or Obama?

Ask anyone who's visited Iran, unguided, and one of the things that you'll always hear first is the disbelief of how nice the people were over there, and how helpful they were.. People have this image of these sheet wearing pyscho's with the dangour of kidnapping lurking atany given moment, and this uncertain fear placed on anyone who's over this side. Some of the laws are a bit harsh, but again, IMO it's far better to have laws that are harsh, than laws that are too leniant... Harsh laws simply annoy people, but not to great extents.. Leniant laws opens the doors for crime, lack of remourse, and fear for law abiders

Miss Yo Yo:
WW3 is already here

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