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Which quarterback would you rather have next season?
"THE" MoSav:
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--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on March 09, 2012, 01:07:51 PM ---CAM and its not even close, nothing against Peyton but besides one grainy video we know nothing about how hes healing..Cam is a special talent Like peyton is that will only come along once or so in a lifetime his size speed arm strength body size everything, its unreal
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Now we're starting to get back to where we were.
Let me make it very clear that I would not as Carolina's GM bring in Peyton under any circumstances, because we'd have no chance at a Superbowl on that shit team either way.
But give me a fucking break if you'd rather have Cam than Peyton on a contender for next year, and next year alone. Let's say both Baltimore and Houston were in the hunt and both Peyton and cam are available, whoever gets Peyton goes farther than whoever gets Cam. And that's a fucking guarantee. Cam put up a lot of yards in a lot of games coming from behind in an era where you can't touch WRs past 5 yards.
And even then he started way better than he finished. The first 8 games before the bye Cam had 1 game under 200 and 3 games in the vicinity of 400. The 8 games after the bye he had 5 games under 200 and no games over 300 yards. Peyton started much slower but finished much stronger in his rookie season.
I don't care where his arm strength is, his head alone makes him better than Cam right now for a one season situation.
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IF WE KNEW FOR SURE PEYTON WAS HEALTHY ID TAKE PEYTON FOR ONE SEASON THATS OBVIOUS! BUT WE DONT!!! So if i had to choose right now id take Cam, u can scoff all you want Shallow, but thats real talk
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He is healthy for sure. His doctors said his neck is better than it's been in years and Reggie Wayne says he Peyton has the arm to out-throw him on deep balls, and that Duke video had him throwing all over the field.
Can one bad hit change all that? Yeah, but it can do it just as easily to Cam, with the way he runs out of the pocket.
If he's playing he's healthy, if he's not healthy enough to play he won't be playing. So that means if it's Cam vs an unhealthy Peyton, that's easy because an unhealthy Peyton won't be on the field.
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on March 12, 2012, 01:24:19 PM ---im sure he would have loved throwing to Troy Brown, Jabar Gafney, and Reche Caldwell LOL...I think id rather throw to wayne, harrison, clark, etc
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What about Jacob Tamme, Blair White, Austin Collie, and Pierre Garcon. Yeah he still had Wayne, but I'll take Richard Seymour, Tedi Bruschi, Vince Wilfork, Ansanti Samuel, Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Willie McGinest on any of those past Colts teams amd BRady can have Wayne and Harrison. They'll end up looking as good as Chad did on that team.
What's a finesse route runners worst enemy? Tom Brady's arm.
Basically if you can adjust to misthrown balls and fight for your spot you can't play with Tom. Look at any highlight reel of the career of David Patten and see how it outshines that of Reggie or Marvin. The only decent throw Brady is good at is sticking it up the middle. Everything else, he's sub par. His deep balls are short, his crossing routes are off the mark, and his corner fades.... well at least he knows better than to even attempt those throws.
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oh yeah i forgot blair white, collie, and garcon were around when brady won his superbowls ::)
LOL ur such a brady hater its comical
Chamillitary Click:
Peyton in Miami would be dominate.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Lunatic on March 12, 2012, 02:15:49 PM ---Peyton meeting with the Titans tomorrow or Weds
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How you feel about that? I know you said you think Locker will learn better under Hasselbeck but Peyton guarantees the division, and maybe a bye. CJ2K became CJ1K because you didn't have to respect the pass at all (or the QB rushing). But with Peyton you may have to respect the pass more than the run and that might mean serious production from CJ.
Lunatic:
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 12, 2012, 04:22:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on March 12, 2012, 02:15:49 PM ---Peyton meeting with the Titans tomorrow or Weds
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How you feel about that? I know you said you think Locker will learn better under Hasselbeck but Peyton guarantees the division, and maybe a bye. CJ2K became CJ1K because you didn't have to respect the pass at all (or the QB rushing). But with Peyton you may have to respect the pass more than the run and that might mean serious production from CJ.
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I'm concerned. Locker was taken to be the future. If Manning signs with the Titans, that seriously jeopardizes that and we just threw away a first round pick. I'd imagine it'd be difficult to sign Manning and keep Locker around for another 2-3 years in a bench role. Plus we seriously need to upgrade the pass rush. The story just came out saying Titans shift focus from Mario Williams to Peyton Manning and that's annoying 'cause Mario was a guy I've wanted all along and so did the front office. The owner (92 year old Bud Adams) pops up outta nowhere and fucks up a good plan put together by good football minds (our front office idea to sign Mario Williams).
With all that said, it'd be pretty hard for me to NOT get excited about signing Peyton Freakin' Manning. If it happens, I'm sure I'd be excited.
But it will suck to not sign Peyton or Mario.
I think it'd look appealing for the short term but I'd be seriously concerned for the future.
I'll just sit back and see how it plays out. Whatever happens, happens.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Lunatic on March 12, 2012, 06:59:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on March 12, 2012, 04:22:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on March 12, 2012, 02:15:49 PM ---Peyton meeting with the Titans tomorrow or Weds
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How you feel about that? I know you said you think Locker will learn better under Hasselbeck but Peyton guarantees the division, and maybe a bye. CJ2K became CJ1K because you didn't have to respect the pass at all (or the QB rushing). But with Peyton you may have to respect the pass more than the run and that might mean serious production from CJ.
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I'm concerned. Locker was taken to be the future. If Manning signs with the Titans, that seriously jeopardizes that and we just threw away a first round pick. I'd imagine it'd be difficult to sign Manning and keep Locker around for another 2-3 years in a bench role. Plus we seriously need to upgrade the pass rush. The story just came out saying Titans shift focus from Mario Williams to Peyton Manning and that's annoying 'cause Mario was a guy I've wanted all along and so did the front office. The owner (92 year old Bud Adams) pops up outta nowhere and fucks up a good plan put together by good football minds (our front office idea to sign Mario Williams).
With all that said, it'd be pretty hard for me to NOT get excited about signing Peyton Freakin' Manning. If it happens, I'm sure I'd be excited.
But it will suck to not sign Peyton or Mario.
I think it'd look appealing for the short term but I'd be seriously concerned for the future.
I'll just sit back and see how it plays out. Whatever happens, happens.
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Not sure what the cap looks like but getting Manning first would be a great way to get Mario to sign for a contender. I can't see anyone in the AFC South not winning the division with Manning, even Jacksonville. The AFC South and AFC West are the only guarantee division titles with Manning I see. Beating the Pats isn't a lock in the East, the Steelers and Ravens in the North, the Niners in the NFC West, the Packers in the North, and who knows what's going to happen with the Saints next year, (I predicted a down turn with the loss of Williams before the scandal), and the NFC East is the most unpredictable division ever.
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