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The Awaking and Realization That Ron Paul Sold You Out, and Obama Sold Me Out
jeromechickenbone:
Being a part of a super PAC shows that you don't get it. Lobbyists are a major problem.
I do agree that on a very local level, politics can be on the up and up (def not always). The higher up you go, the more they are influenced by outside forces.
Do you think that those families from Egypt and Rome that had all the wealth on the world magically disappeared and gave all their money away? No, you don't own the world for thousands of years and give it up. You put figureheads in place to appease the masses, but they do your bidding.
Obama is CIA, Bush (both) are CIA, etc.
You buy into the romantic BS that America was founded by good guys, they were all agents of Britain and Masonic orders.
Q U A K E:
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on March 21, 2012, 11:05:34 AM ---Being a part of a super PAC shows that you don't get it. Lobbyists are a major problem.
I do agree that on a very local level, politics can be on the up and up (def not always). The higher up you go, the more they are influenced by outside forces.
Do you think that those families from Egypt and Rome that had all the wealth on the world magically disappeared and gave all their money away? No, you don't own the world for thousands of years and give it up. You put figureheads in place to appease the masses, but they do your bidding.
Obama is CIA, Bush (both) are CIA, etc.
You buy into the romantic BS that America was founded by good guys, they were all agents of Britain and Masonic orders.
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Yeah Jrome dropping some truth, same w/ Virtuoso although he underestimates the power of manipulation used by the elites to hoodwink the sheeple...but Jrome I think its possible that even though many founding fatherse were freemasons...the system they did not realize how infiltrated these secret societies were by the dark powers (George Washingtons quotes prove that he thought he was in a positive spiritual organization that he realized was being slwoly taken over by the dark lords). the constitution and whole division of powers system seems to be a direct response to the british colonialist shitstem they were setting up to enslave the masses of the world...it providedt the common people with an understanding of the most important principles they must guard against tyranny with...
and mdogg, u dont believe in iluminati?? just look at how the pyramid symbolizes illuminati...the sheep at the bottom are the ignorant masses believing in the theatre, then on top are ppl who dont trust the system but at least are trying to fight it after realizing tis a scam (tea party) then theres people who only have partial view of system like police, military, then theres politicians who have more understanding like the people who exposed all this to u...then theres people who are the most imporatant politicians with most power and greater understanding and so on and on....
of course believing or knowing theres illuminati origanizations out thtere doesnt mean u believe everything comming from every1 talking about illumanti as they are masters of informational warfare (i mean they have brainwashed EVERYBODY and all of us for most of our lives!) so they spread false knowledge about themselves and the world under cover of being "truth" to deceive us and lead us astray and keep us from uniting as a group... ::)
M Dogg™:
WOW, did you guys even read my post?
to virtuoso. You are getting into banking. I would never deny the shadiness in banking. Is it Illuminati, well who knows. What I do know is that the banking industries around the world are causing a shift in the world economy and the world is facing a very difficult time. I would never ever put anything passed the banks. Are they trying to ruin the world's economy? I would believe it because it's very likely.
to Jrome. I think what I said and where you are, are wwwhhhhhyyyy far apart. See, you sound like someone who has never left your state, gone to your state capital, meet you local representatives or even meet educated people. Let me break this down.
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on March 21, 2012, 10:48:32 AM ---Congrats on at least opening your eyes a bit, although you are heavily brainwashed and still buy into false paradigms like repub vs dem. Someday you will realize that they are controlled by the same people, they just provide the illusion of choice. Its a play on the tribal mentality aka my team is better than yours, an highlighting superficial differences (gay marriage, abortion) while concealing that they all agree on a fiat currency enslavement system, pro war, pro spending, biggggg government, etc.
BOTH PARTIES ARE IN AGREEMENT ON MUCH MORE THAN THEY TELL YOU ON TV.
Bush and Obama agree on 98% philosophically.
The US has been fascist (merging of corporation and govt as defined by Mussolini), and both sides serve that cause. This is not a new development at all.
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I don't disagree completely with this. For some reason you think that I posted that there was a difference in congress between parties. I said there is a difference between Ron Paul (pre selling out) and Dennis Kucinich (pre getting taken out), but for the large majority in congress there is no difference. Congress is too hard to control, no super world power can control congress because they can't control who gets in there. But they can corrupted them once they get in. The culture in Washington DC is corrupted, and as my friend who grew up there, and worked for politicians said, "you see many good men become crooked politicians over night in this town (DC)." Obama has NOT done anything to change from Bush, his just a more articulate face for the government. And you and I agree with the Facist statement 100%.
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on March 21, 2012, 10:55:35 AM ---Just read some more...
So Ron sold out because his son is popular? Wrong. Rand is indeed no Ron, more hawkish and influenced by Israel. Ron is not. Rand is MUCH more palatable to the establishment than Ron.
And FYI, your vote doesn't count. Stalin said it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes. Electronic anonymous voting is the norm because it allows the counters to defraud the voters for their ends. I'm sorry you believe that it makes a difference.
Ron Paul will consistently have 4000+ at his rallies the night before primaries, where others get a couple dozen, yet miraculously 1000s manifest to vote for any candidate but Ron.
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When you get into the inside of the political world, you learn Paul is no different than the rest now. Paul's job is to get people like you to support him, then at the convention he'll lose and maybe even have his own convention. But then his son will be nominated for VP and then that will unite the Libertarian vote and the Neo-Con Republican vote. This is already talked about, this was THE talk of the insiders in DC. If it doesn't happen this year, then look for 2016. Ron Paul is the Republican's Pied Piper. Right now, it is better for the establishment (you can call this the Illuminati if you want) to keep everyone in two parties. Right now, what would be young Republicans are now Libertarians. So in order to bring control back to political world, Ron Paul's son will be VP in the next 8 years and Paul is bringing you back to the Republican Party. If it doesn't happen this year, it WILL happen in 2016. Remember, I have friends who are insiders, that are next to congress people 24/7, and they let me know a thing or two. Not as much as I'd like, but they gave me a heads up on that.
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on March 21, 2012, 11:05:34 AM ---Being a part of a super PAC shows that you don't get it. Lobbyists are a major problem.
I do agree that on a very local level, politics can be on the up and up (def not always). The higher up you go, the more they are influenced by outside forces.
Do you think that those families from Egypt and Rome that had all the wealth on the world magically disappeared and gave all their money away? No, you don't own the world for thousands of years and give it up. You put figureheads in place to appease the masses, but they do your bidding.
Obama is CIA, Bush (both) are CIA, etc.
You buy into the romantic BS that America was founded by good guys, they were all agents of Britain and Masonic orders.
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Here goes the break down of my political involvement. My "Super PAC" is the local Democrat Farmer Labor Senate District 57 Super PAC. We meet once a month as a pizza place, we have to buy our own pizza (usually we take turns buying the pizza and beer), we organize fund raisers and buy fliers and hands outs for our local Democrat races. All the people in our area running for state senate know me by name and face, my neighbors work on their campaigns. When we have elected someone, I have neighbors who work on their staffs and organize their meetings. Trust me, it's about as "up and up" politics as you get.
For the lobbying. Do you know what lobbying is? Many think lobbying is buying congressmen expensive dinners and gifts so they can vote a certain way. This is corporate lobbying. People lobbying is calling your congressman, making a meeting and then meeting a staffer to explain your position, flying to DC and meeting your senators. This is what I do, and since I know some staffers I have been able to meet the Minnesota senators in person and talk to them about issues. Like what was said about Obama, they meet you and seem to listen. Only Al Franken actually takes action though, he's earning my trust more and more.
This is my political involvement. I am not doing the Obama thing again, I am staying local and trying to figure out how to get honest people to represent me.
And Quake and Jrome, if you think virtuoso is underestimating the Illuminati, yet you don't think the Illuminati can get Ron Paul on your side, then I truly believe you need to look in the mirror and find out what you really believe. Ron Paul is NOT Superman.
TraceOneInfinite:
That's projection homie. Look it up. It's a psychological defense mechanism. Basically you are feeling embarrassed about being fooled by Obama so you want to project that onto Ron Paul supporters. But Ron Paul is a principled man, and he's done nothing to embarrass his followers.. your reaching
M Dogg™:
We'll see, but I was calling the Ron Paul shit in 2008. Look it up. I just actually am able to back that up now.
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