Who should get the title shot against JDS to replace Overeem?

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Yeah but there's plenty of new blood. I want to see Pettis challenge for the belt. I want to see what Diaz and Maynard can do against Bendo. And then after that there will be another line of contenders coming up. Melendez is gonna have his hands full with Thomson and the UFC doesn't currently need him. He can come over for a superfight when they actually need a title challenger.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Alexander Gustafsson, Brian Stann & Lil Nog are no jokes. Dude has crazy athleticism and wrestling. As he keeps training with guys like Dominick Cruz his all around MMA game will only get better.

Brock Lesnar had crazy athleticism and wrestling too. And good training partners.

[rayallen0]

Alexander Gustafsson, Brian Stann & Lil Nog are no jokes. Dude has crazy athleticism and wrestling. As he keeps training with guys like Dominick Cruz his all around MMA game will only get better.

Brock Lesnar had crazy athleticism and wrestling too. And good training partners.

1. Lesnar was 30 when he started MMA
2. Lesnar was a beast and a champion and didn't look to bad tell he had a 12-inch piece of his colon removed
3. Phil Davis actually takes this as a career, Lesnar had the WWE to fall back down and had enough money to just be lazy.
4. Phil Davis has steadily improved and he has a crazy submission game which lesnar never had.

All he needs is to get better striking and he will be an all around well rounded fighter ready to challenge. he is already a top 10 LHW. After Rashad & Hendo he is next in line for a title shot in my eyes. (of course that is a long ways off and a lot could happen)

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Alexander Gustafsson, Brian Stann & Lil Nog are no jokes. Dude has crazy athleticism and wrestling. As he keeps training with guys like Dominick Cruz his all around MMA game will only get better.

Brock Lesnar had crazy athleticism and wrestling too. And good training partners.

1. Lesnar was 30 when he started MMA
2. Lesnar was a beast and a champion and didn't look to bad tell he had a 12-inch piece of his colon removed
3. Phil Davis actually takes this as a career, Lesnar had the WWE to fall back down and had enough money to just be lazy.
4. Phil Davis has steadily improved and he has a crazy submission game which lesnar never had.

All he needs is to get better striking and he will be an all around well rounded fighter ready to challenge. he is already a top 10 LHW. After Rashad & Hendo he is next in line for a title shot in my eyes. (of course that is a long ways off and a lot could happen)

It's more than just talking about a guy's potential and training hard. You don't know what his potential is nor if he'll ever reach it. You don't know if he'll ever be good at striking. There's far more wrestlers who never become great strikers than there are that do. You don't know if he'll master using his wrestling effectively in mma like Evans has. Everything you're talking about is in the maybe. For now, after being thoroughly dominated by Evans in every aspect of the game, he doesn't have what it takes. So looking at him as a contender in a year is pointless until he actually shows that potential in a fight. Til then he's not a credible opponent for Jones. Just because the guy is black and built doesn't mean he's going to automatically become an elite fighter.

[rayallen0]

wtf are you talking about? have you watched him fight before Rashad Evans? he already fought 2 of the top 10 LHW and dominated them and made Brian Stann drop down to MW. He obviously is going to be something. Dude's striking has improved throughout. No he wasn't able to compete with Rashad. But he damn sure looked better than shad did during his early years (the hump the fighter for 15 minutes rashad).

Black and built? are you fucking kidding me? Then i would say a bum like Kongo could compete. but he can't until nut shots are legal.

He has Wrestling & Jiu Jitsu, He has real ground and pound (no Ben Askren).

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

And my original point stands. What a fighter might possibly accomplish in the future doesn't make today's light heavyweight division any more competitive. You're dealing in the maybe. Right now he's not good enough.

[rayallen0]

His striking has steadily improved. Against Tim Boetsch he showed great leg & middle kicks. He also evaded Boetschs great striking.  and is the only fighter to ever submit Boetsch in one of the greatest submissions of all time.

or how about his fight against lil nog where he landed 2 strong high kicks & a flying knee.

He has a ways to go but to judge him off 1 fight is ridiculous.

what does this have to do with the future? he already did it? he is a top 10 fighter. his only loss is to the #1 contender. His biggest wins were the original main event for this weekend.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

wtf are you talking about? have you watched him fight before Rashad Evans? he already fought 3 of the top 10 LHW and dominated them. He obviously is going to be something. Dude's striking has improved throughout. No he wasn't able to compete with Rashad. But he damn sure looked better than shad did during his early years (the hump the fighter for 15 minutes rashad).

Black and built? are you fucking kidding me? Then i would say a bum like Kongo could compete. but he can't until nut shots are legal.

Sorry but LMAO. Since when was the Lil Nog fight a domination? He was losing on the feet then humped his way to a decision. Seeing as Rashad wasn't being dominated in his early years, I'd have to disagree with Davis looking better. Who are these other top 10 LWH he dominated? Gustafsson has looked good recently, but he was a rookie when they fought and not anywhere near the top 10.

No Davis isn't "obviously going to be something." History says otherwise. People always talk about a fighter's potential but most of the time it isn't reached. Like I said, you can't guess at his possible skills in the future as a reason the division is competitive. Ironic you bring up Kongo, because people were talking about his potential like he was the next big threat in the division. Though after a history of failing that talk tends to go away.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

His striking has steadily improved. Against Tim Boetsch he showed great leg & middle kicks. He also evaded Boetschs great striking.  and is the only fighter to ever submit Boetsch in one of the greatest submissions of all time.

or how about his fight against lil nog where he landed 2 strong high kicks & a flying knee.

He has a ways to go but to judge him off 1 fight is ridiculous.

what does this have to do with the future? he already did it? he is a top 10 fighter. his only loss is to the #1 contender. His biggest wins were the original main event for this weekend.

Don't even bother bringing up the Lil Nog fight. He showed weakness there and judging by his last fight, hasn't improved from it. If Davis is a top 10 fighter its further proof of a non-competitive division.

[rayallen0]

wtf are you talking about? have you watched him fight before Rashad Evans? he already fought 3 of the top 10 LHW and dominated them. He obviously is going to be something. Dude's striking has improved throughout. No he wasn't able to compete with Rashad. But he damn sure looked better than shad did during his early years (the hump the fighter for 15 minutes rashad).

Black and built? are you fucking kidding me? Then i would say a bum like Kongo could compete. but he can't until nut shots are legal.

Sorry but LMAO. Since when was the Lil Nog fight a domination? He was losing on the feet then humped his way to a decision. Seeing as Rashad wasn't being dominated in his early years, I'd have to disagree with Davis looking better. Who are these other top 10 LWH he dominated? Gustafsson has looked good recently, but he was a rookie when they fought and not anywhere near the top 10.

No Davis isn't "obviously going to be something." History says otherwise. People always talk about a fighter's potential but most of the time it isn't reached. Like I said, you can't guess at his possible skills in the future as a reason the division is competitive. Ironic you bring up Kongo, because people were talking about his potential like he was the next big threat in the division. Though after a history of failing that talk tends to go away.

lol you were one of them talking about Kongo recently.

you love to argue about everything.

[rayallen0]

i wish phil davis had 3 years of being fed cans. Guarantee he wouldn't "draw" (lose) a fight against a washed up tito ortiz. Lets see his first 6 fights verse Phil Davis first 6 fights.

Brad Imes: 0-3 in the UFC dropped in 2007.
Sam Hoger: 2-3 in the UFC dropped in 2007.
Stephan Bonnar: 8-6 in the UFC. Lost every big fight he has ever had.
Jason Lambert: 4-4 in the UFC dropped in 2008.
Sean Salmon: 0-2 in the UFC dropped in 2006.
Tito Ortiz: UFC Legend. 1-5 since the fight happened.



Phil Davis:
Brian Stann: 5-3 in the UFC. Top 10 Middleweight.
Alexander Gustafsson: 5-1 in the UFC top 10 LHW
Rodney Wallace: 0-3 in UFC dropped in 2010
Tim Boetsch: 6-3 in the UFC, hasn't lost since fight.
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: Pride legend. 3-2 in UFC. Top 10 LHW.
Rashad Evans: Former LHW Champion. #1 LHW contender. 12-1-1 in UFC.

wonder why Rashad didn't look bad when he was fighting early on 

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

i wish phil davis had 3 years of being fed cans. Guarantee he wouldn't "draw" (lose) a fight against a washed up tito ortiz. Lets see his first 6 fights verse Phil Davis first 6 fights.

Brad Imes: 0-3 in the UFC dropped in 2007.
Sam Hoger: 2-3 in the UFC dropped in 2007.
Stephan Bonnar: 8-6 in the UFC. Lost every big fight he has ever had.
Jason Lambert: 4-4 in the UFC dropped in 2008.
Sean Salmon: 0-2 in the UFC dropped in 2006.
Tito Ortiz: UFC Legend. 1-5 since the fight happened.



Phil Davis:
Brian Stann: 5-3 in the UFC. Top 10 Middleweight.
Alexander Gustafsson: 5-1 in the UFC top 10 LHW
Rodney Wallace: 0-3 in UFC dropped in 2010
Tim Boetsch: 6-3 in the UFC, hasn't lost since fight.
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: Pride legend. 3-2 in UFC. Top 10 LHW.
Rashad Evans: Former LHW Champion. #1 LHW contender. 12-1-1 in UFC.

wonder why Rashad didn't look bad when he was fighting early on 

How come you're avoiding the point completely? Which is that you stating his possible potential like its fact doesn't mean anything. You can't predict the future. At least let the guy improve before you stan for him. I'm going to bump this thread in a year and laugh at you when he isn't fighting for the belt.

[rayallen0]

Of course its an estimation and my own thoughts. Not passing it off as fact.

lmao whats wrong with you? you are going to laugh at me because i see a lot of potential in a fighter? whatever gets you off i guess.

What a boring ass way to watch sports. look at pure facts and stats and think about only right now. Don't have own opinions or predictions.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

oh now you're admitting its a guess? You just said its obvious he's going to be something big. And that in a year he'd be the number one contender. I'm telling you its not.

[rayallen0]

its obvious dude has potential. 
It was obvious Ryan Leaf had potential.

no shit you can't predict anything for sure. Not sure wtf it is with you that you have to argue everyone's opinions. Would make a shit load more of an impact if you weren't known as the guy who argues just to argue.