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its clear that Suge ain't suckin no dick
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Nate Day on May 11, 2012, 10:24:32 AMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on May 10, 2012, 11:55:18 PMQuote from: BC Powda (not the real Battlecat) on May 10, 2012, 11:12:16 PMman fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more. He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.yeah he made the label go bankrupt.Suge didn't make the label go bankrupt. The death of 2Pac (which was his own fault), the lack of Dr Dre (down to daz) were strong factors.. Not to mention the original funding of the label that was under investigation, the lawsuits from the Harris's, and the political pressure that made Interscope back out, and others stay clear were also primary factors that made the label go down the tubes. Suge is just the figure head, and blame guy. Was he wrong for trying to get celebrity status as a "gangster" figure. Sure, but that was no reason the label went down... If anything, his actions and attitude were the only thing that allowed Death Row to launch, and flourish as long as it did.... He fought for Death Row to own it's own masters, for artists - BLACK rappers to get the best legal assistance (something unheard of previously) and had the funds to put out huge albums, lots of big videos for that time (Natural Born Killaz) and basically put his finger up when Political figures tried to weigh in. I think today - The current Suge looks bitter and sad, and a huge part of that is because he never really sold out, and watched others IE: Snoop on No limit, and doing his colgate ad's and pimp fancy dress, and Dre doing no cuss then "gangsta" re-hash, and making a lot of money because of it, while he continued to try and put out real raw material IE; Too Gangsta 4 TV celebrity beat downs, OFTB, hard rap and so on and have no one want to put it out, yet put a ton of money behind a watered down Dre or Snoop, and even 2Pac (Ghetto Gospel) Suge is the blame guy for a lot on here, but people need to remember that whilst everyone jumped ship and bailed - Including all the advisors, lawyers, accountants as well as the rappers and producers, he still stayed, still scouted for talent, still got some out of shytty deals, and even helped those on other labels negotiate better deals for themselves for no slef-profit... & lets not forget others who still went to him when they didn't need to - Lisa "Left Eye" Lopez, Ja Rule, Petey Pablo, and people like Kurupt and Danny Boy who returned. Why would they all go to him if he was so bad? People can't see that the label was blackballed for all the wrong reasons
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on May 10, 2012, 11:55:18 PMQuote from: BC Powda (not the real Battlecat) on May 10, 2012, 11:12:16 PMman fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more. He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.yeah he made the label go bankrupt.
Quote from: BC Powda (not the real Battlecat) on May 10, 2012, 11:12:16 PMman fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more. He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:You do realize that Death Row was NEVER as successful as it was when Suge wasn't around right? Compare 92-96 to the Keita Rock era. Then compare 01-04 to the Wideawake Era. People can hate on Suge all they want but the dude knew what he was doing.
man fuck Suge Knight....he over-managed Death Row...he was a fuckin control freak. He made a ton of fucked up business mistakes and thats why he doen't own the company any more. He controled everything and had no talent amd no clue how to run a record label... heres a short list of some of his biggest fuck ups IMO (and im sure there are more:
are you serious? the downfall of Death Row started once Suge became visible.
How many artists (DJ Quik, Jodeci, etc) wanted to sign with Death Row but didnt because of the unprofessional enviornment at Death Row records?
He got 2Pac killed because he got him all hyped up and had him running around starting shit and screaming MOB. I don't believe 2pac starts the fight that leads to him getting shot if he's not rolling with Suge.
If Suge was the reason for all the success and made such good business decisions then why did he not create another star after Dre & Snoop left? Why didn't Eastwood, Crooked I, hell even Daz or Kurupt become superstars if Suge was the mastermind behind Death Row's success?
And most of the music he didnt even release right letting producers that had nothing to with the original music go in and fuck it up...
hell even Daz or Kurupt become superstars if Suge was the mastermind behind Death Row's success?
People always complain about that fact that WA release leaked music that we already have, and have had for years, but you have to remember, as far as they're concerned, none of this stuff has been heard before by music listeners, even if they know different. As a business they are entitled to make tracklists using songs that have leaked because they've never been officially released before. So be grateful in that respect.
Quote from: dnjp4life on May 06, 2012, 08:36:09 AMPeople always complain about that fact that WA release leaked music that we already have, and have had for years, but you have to remember, as far as they're concerned, none of this stuff has been heard before by music listeners, even if they know different. As a business they are entitled to make tracklists using songs that have leaked because they've never been officially released before. So be grateful in that respect. People fail to realize this. It's not WA's fault that a shitload of unreleased Death Row material got bootlegged/ leaked. If I was them I would give all the unreleased tracks that have been leaked a proper release too. They only thing that makes me mad is the fact that they continue to put out songs that have already been released. That and the fact that a lot of it sounds like shit.
He was the guy that corporate America simply didn't want climbing the ranks because he was a serious threat to their corrupt politics. He wanted to take Death Row to an entire different coast and duplicate the money while still keeping it BLACK owned. They were fine with Suge being able to get these artists to put out the music, and make them a lot more money than what Suge or Death Row did. But as soon as they saw that he was prepared to move the label to new heights, and secure it's place, and wasn't as stupid as people thought he was, they needed to get rid of him quick, and with anyone who comes up from the streets, it's real easy to get rid of them economically, or legally. They gave back to the streets, and quietly at that too.. Can you guys find any pictures on the net of a bus full of teens going to see their incarcerated family behind bars funded by Death Row? The sporting teams with uniforms and equipment bought by Death Row? The mothers days, the summer BBQ's, the xmas hand outs on the streets??? You know why? Because they meant every bit of it. The label lived it to it's image in terms of "street/hood label".... Now how many corporate label do you know who do the above??? Any thing they put their name to is done so in a manner that is carried out to ensure their name is advertised through out a charity event, or has some promotional agenda. Madonna adopting 1 black hungry child but failing to arrive to pick the child up until the media press helicopter had arrived despite her being in the area an hour beforehand. Leona Lewis going to Kenya to take pictures with sick kids all smiling, even though she only arrived for 5 minutes to "meet and greet" while a non profit team beforehand done all the leg work and graft for the project, and that was you guessed it - before her album release. Death Row actually done it legitimately without the BS. Death Row simply done it for the love, and white corporate America hated that because with they knew that Death Row would have huge support from the streets, and that kind of support (see John Lennon) meant "voters" influence, and as soon as 2Pac came on board, the label had to be brought down one way or another. The gang affiliation, and criminal records of it's artists just made it an easy target