How did Nate's first album not even reach top 50 on Billboard?

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

^nate isnt any bigger now, than when he was alive

[Cordozzar Drakko]

^nate isnt any bigger now, than when he was alive

A little bit I think, or maybe it was only at the time of his passing? & itll soon fade away as his memory does... But now that you mention it, it is true Elektra doesn't seem to be too keen on putting tribute albums out for Nate. Or even officially release his self-titles album.

[TraceOneInfinite]

I heard something like 150,000 was all it sold.  I wonder if Nate even made any money off this album.  

sellin 150,000 indepently means you're eating good... and as far as i know it sold close to 250k, but i'm not sure. Nate was schooled by D-Shot & Big C Style on the independent game, so i'm pretty sure he made a nice profit.

from what i read, he sued Death Row to get his masters and be able to re-release the material from G-Funk Classics Vol. 1.

IMO, the reason it didn't go anywhere near gold or platinum was because of the G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 situation, and because he dropped it independently in 98 when the westcoast scene was losing momentum big time. aside from Snoop, Cube, Quik & E-40 (not counting 2pac) which where all major releases, nobody went gold or plat on the west. just like if it had not been pulled out of the shelves, G-FUnk CLassics wouldn't have sold much either, as soon as Suge went to jail, Death Row never really moved any units like that, it's a pity cause as it has been pointed out, Never Leave Me Alone was a top 40 hit. Nate & Rage were the biggest losers on Tha Row, if their albums had dropped during the label's heyday, they would have at least a plaque for their own albums.

The Rage album was less than impressive.  I don't think Rage really had the talent to create a best-selling album, especially in 98'.  She was dope when she had the support of Dre and Snoop, like in her "Afro Puffs" days, but aside from the success of Afro Puffs she was only dope as a guest artist.

[Sccit]

^nate isnt any bigger now, than when he was alive

A little bit I think, or maybe it was only at the time of his passing? & itll soon fade away as his memory does... But now that you mention it, it is true Elektra doesn't seem to be too keen on putting tribute albums out for Nate. Or even officially release his self-titles album.

ur trippin...nate was at his biggest around the time "area codes" dropped.

[Sccit]

I heard something like 150,000 was all it sold.  I wonder if Nate even made any money off this album.  

sellin 150,000 indepently means you're eating good... and as far as i know it sold close to 250k, but i'm not sure. Nate was schooled by D-Shot & Big C Style on the independent game, so i'm pretty sure he made a nice profit.

from what i read, he sued Death Row to get his masters and be able to re-release the material from G-Funk Classics Vol. 1.

IMO, the reason it didn't go anywhere near gold or platinum was because of the G-Funk Classics Vol. 1 situation, and because he dropped it independently in 98 when the westcoast scene was losing momentum big time. aside from Snoop, Cube, Quik & E-40 (not counting 2pac) which where all major releases, nobody went gold or plat on the west. just like if it had not been pulled out of the shelves, G-FUnk CLassics wouldn't have sold much either, as soon as Suge went to jail, Death Row never really moved any units like that, it's a pity cause as it has been pointed out, Never Leave Me Alone was a top 40 hit. Nate & Rage were the biggest losers on Tha Row, if their albums had dropped during the label's heyday, they would have at least a plaque for their own albums.

The Rage album was less than impressive.  I don't think Rage really had the talent to create a best-selling album, especially in 98'.  She was dope when she had the support of Dre and Snoop, like in her "Afro Puffs" days, but aside from the success of Afro Puffs she was only dope as a guest artist.

rage is a dope lyricist...if dre woulda produced her album, shit woulda been classic. her album was pretty good, but not great. woulda been much better with some more focus on production.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

@cordozzar


That's a lie.  I haven't heard shit about Nate since he passed on.  We want it to be like u say it is but it isn't.

Promotion and distribution staggered the success of that/those albums.  

People were checking for a Nate Dogg album becuz they knew it would be good.  Maybe u and your homies felt that way but people actually fucked with Nate Dogg.  A nigga who I barely even knew as a pre-teen let me on hold to that album and I wasn't even aware it existed.  Nate was always just as popular as 2pac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Tha Dogg Pound, he wasn't one of those guys who got lost in the shadows of his peers (even before he started blessing everybody with hooks)

[Cordozzar Drakko]

^nate isnt any bigger now, than when he was alive

A little bit I think, or maybe it was only at the time of his passing? & itll soon fade away as his memory does... But now that you mention it, it is true Elektra doesn't seem to be too keen on putting tribute albums out for Nate. Or even officially release his self-titles album.

ur trippin...nate was at his biggest around the time "area codes" dropped.

if you mean in features requests, most probably yes, but how about solo record sales?

[Cordozzar Drakko]

@cordozzar


That's a lie.  I haven't heard shit about Nate since he passed on.  We want it to be like u say it is but it isn't.

Promotion and distribution staggered the success of that/those albums.  

People were checking for a Nate Dogg album becuz they knew it would be good.  Maybe u and your homies felt that way but people actually fucked with Nate Dogg.  A nigga who I barely even knew as a pre-teen let me on hold to that album and I wasn't even aware it existed.  Nate was always just as popular as 2pac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Tha Dogg Pound, he wasn't one of those guys who got lost in the shadows of his peers (even before he started blessing everybody with hooks)

As popular as Dre, Snoop or Pac? I don't think so.
Had he been as popular he wouldn't have died in poverty & his family wouldn't have needed to rely on fan-raised funds, wouldn't you say? (With ALL DUE respect to Nate's memory & legacy.)

[Sccit]

^nate isnt any bigger now, than when he was alive

A little bit I think, or maybe it was only at the time of his passing? & itll soon fade away as his memory does... But now that you mention it, it is true Elektra doesn't seem to be too keen on putting tribute albums out for Nate. Or even officially release his self-titles album.

ur trippin...nate was at his biggest around the time "area codes" dropped.

if you mean in features requests, most probably yes, but how about solo record sales?

well, thats what hes mainly been known as, a hookmaster. he was never big as a solo act.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

@cordozzar


That's a lie.  I haven't heard shit about Nate since he passed on.  We want it to be like u say it is but it isn't.

Promotion and distribution staggered the success of that/those albums.  

People were checking for a Nate Dogg album becuz they knew it would be good.  Maybe u and your homies felt that way but people actually fucked with Nate Dogg.  A nigga who I barely even knew as a pre-teen let me on hold to that album and I wasn't even aware it existed.  Nate was always just as popular as 2pac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Tha Dogg Pound, he wasn't one of those guys who got lost in the shadows of his peers (even before he started blessing everybody with hooks)

As popular as Dre, Snoop or Pac? I don't think so.
Had he been as popular he wouldn't have died in poverty & his family wouldn't have needed to rely on fan-raised funds, wouldn't you say? (With ALL DUE respect to Nate's memory & legacy.)

U r aware that Pac was broke/in debt when he died right?, along with countless other musicians (like Michael Jackson...so they say)

If that's ur reasoning for what u say then it's piss poor.  Was Nate the next Brittany Spears at that time in music, no.  But Nate definitely had a big following.  GOAT/King(s) were synonymous with 2Pac and Nate Dogg and etc.  I think you're thinking about Rage and Suga Free.  Tha Eastsidaz went platinum and they were virtually unheard of, not to mention "G'd Up" was on the "3 Strikes" soundtrack and both albums came out in February.  How can u say people weren't checking for a Nate Dogg album when Nate Dogg was pretty much a household name verses to virtually unheard of rappers.  What r u gonna say, becuz Nate Dogg is a hip hop artist and he doesn't make Rap songs then nobody wants to buy it? (even for that time).  That's pretty absurd guy

[Cordozzar Drakko]

@cordozzar


That's a lie.  I haven't heard shit about Nate since he passed on.  We want it to be like u say it is but it isn't.

Promotion and distribution staggered the success of that/those albums.  

People were checking for a Nate Dogg album becuz they knew it would be good.  Maybe u and your homies felt that way but people actually fucked with Nate Dogg.  A nigga who I barely even knew as a pre-teen let me on hold to that album and I wasn't even aware it existed.  Nate was always just as popular as 2pac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and Tha Dogg Pound, he wasn't one of those guys who got lost in the shadows of his peers (even before he started blessing everybody with hooks)

As popular as Dre, Snoop or Pac? I don't think so.
Had he been as popular he wouldn't have died in poverty & his family wouldn't have needed to rely on fan-raised funds, wouldn't you say? (With ALL DUE respect to Nate's memory & legacy.)

U r aware that Pac was broke/in debt when he died right?, along with countless other musicians (like Michael Jackson...so they say)

If that's ur reasoning for what u say then it's piss poor.  Was Nate the next Brittany Spears at that time in music, no.  But Nate definitely had a big following.  GOAT/King(s) were synonymous with 2Pac and Nate Dogg and etc.  I think you're thinking about Rage and Suga Free.  Tha Eastsidaz went platinum and they were virtually unheard of, not to mention "G'd Up" was on the "3 Strikes" soundtrack and both albums came out in February.  How can u say people weren't checking for a Nate Dogg album when Nate Dogg was pretty much a household name verses to virtually unheard of rappers.  What r u gonna say, becuz Nate Dogg is a hip hop artist and he doesn't make Rap songs then nobody wants to buy it? (even for that time).  That's pretty absurd guy

& WHY did Tha Eastsidaz debut went platinum? Because it had Snoop Dogg ALL OVER IT is all.
You wanna believe Nate was as big as PAc, Dre & Snoop, well it's your chjoice, but it ain't true. If it ere, he would have made the same figures as them. & He never did. (& I stree it has NOTHING to do with the quality of his music before someone makes it like that's what I said or meant.)

Another exemple?
how many Source, Vibe & XXL covers has Pac, Snnop & Dre make?
How many Nate made?
Daz & Kurupt made more covers than Nate made. (I don't know what covers he made actually, & if anyone has covers with Nate, PLEASE send me the jpegs for them, thank you!)
There you go.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

Your reasons actually make no sense


I'm dead serious when I say this but I think when "Nobody Does It Better" came on TV we were all watching it at the same time.  I think thru out my entire life (literally) I've only seen that video played twice on TV.  I never saw "Never Leave Me Alone" on TV, I never heard any of his shit on the radio and tv for that fact.  Matter of fact I think i heard everything Nate Dogg played on TV and Radio except his solo shit (which had features), since radio and tv is the only thing that's ever mattered in life

[Cordozzar Drakko]

No more or no less than yours. Nate never was as big as Dre, Snoop & Pac. It's plain nonsense.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

Riiight... let's just agree to disagree


Even tho.... Nate's singles and album(s) are heralded as classic by core, caught on, and new fans alike (before and after his death)

[Cordozzar Drakko]

Riiight... let's just agree to disagree


Even tho.... Nate's singles and album(s) are heralded as classic by core, caught on, and new fans alike (before and after his death)

As you say, we can only agree to disagree on this one. Glad to see it IS still possible to argue with someone on this site without calling the other names just because he deosn't share one's opinions. It is actually refreshing.