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Joachim:
If Robson had got the Ireland job, Keane would've played against the Jocks last night, theres no question over his ability for me, theres only 2 defensive midfielders in the same league as him as far as im concerned (Zanetti, Vieira), he just did'nt get things his way and is punishing the Irish players/fans by retiring imo, but its his career and at 32, its only fair he can do whatever he feels is best for him.

Jay ay Beee:
But Robson didn't get the Ireland job.

Were Shearer/Bergkamp 'punishing the fans'?

Sol:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on February 12, 2003, 08:39:27 PM ---.

I'm right.
You know it.


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for once.
these friendlies are a waste of time. managers have found out that sven is a walk over, the effort put in in the first half was a joke, but what do you expect?
i couldnt really give a shit anyway. i find it hard to support a team with is captained by beckham and with owen up front.

i would MUCH rather prefer for arsenal to win on saturday than for england to of won last night, shit id rather arseanl win the fa cup than england win the world cup.

Joachim:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on February 13, 2003, 07:16:57 AM ---Were Shearer/Bergkamp 'punishing the fans'?

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Nope, you know why? Cause in their case there were adequate replacements for example when Bergy retired there was a whole host of talent to replace him, Hasselbaink, Kluivert and Ruud Van Nametoolong, same with Shearer albeit to a lesser extent. Who can replace Keane for Ireland? Kilbane? Kinsella? The almighty Mcateer? Reid? Holland? we all know that Keane has been Ireland's best player since Brady and probably of all time, the team/fans are paying the price for the FAI's shortcomings.

bez:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on February 12, 2003, 08:39:27 PM ---lol

Isn't it amazing how Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Paul Scholes, Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, David Beckham either play shit or look like they can't be bothered.  The second half team played better because... the match was more important to them.  They were playing for their future careers, ie. Mills.  Week in week out Gary Neville is better than Danny Mills by a huge margin.  Why?  Because he is naturally a better player.  But tonight, this match meant fuck all to Gary Neville (just using him as an example, there are others).  Do you think Neville wants to risk injury playing full pelt against a third world football nation when hes playing in the biggest match of the season on saturday, is gonna be playing Juventus in the European Cup in a week etc.?  Fuck no.  So why the suprise when England play shit?  
  Contrast that with Lazaridis, Chipperfield, Skoko, footballing nobodies, couldn't clean majority of England first teams boots.  But this is a huge match for these guys, Australia want to prove they are worthy of competing at the very top, these players have next to nothing domestically, so they go full pelt internationally.  Kewell, Okon and Viduka as well.  They play well because 1)England is more glamorous than Selhurst Park and 2)They don't give a shit  about Leeds in their current situation.

So either get angry about it, pretend players that have won everything in their careers are really Scottish Division 2 or accept the realities that the England first teamers who are playing for everything at club level DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY AGAINST KANGAROOS.

I'm right.
You know it.


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SOme good points there lad, deffo.

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