Author Topic: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?  (Read 927 times)

Eddz

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2012, 01:44:04 AM »
Lady of Rage is one of the best rappers. She would destroy most men on the mic.
 

DeeezNuuuts83

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2012, 12:39:41 PM »
It sucks but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal.  So he messed up some scrapped, shelved songs from 1993 or so.  The songs weren't all that great to begin with, and ones that fans weren't eager to hear.  It's not like they gave him The World Is Mine.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think the album was bad.
 

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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2012, 05:00:18 PM »
It sucks but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal.  So he messed up some scrapped, shelved songs from 1993 or so.  The songs weren't all that great to begin with, and ones that fans weren't eager to hear.  It's not like they gave him The World Is Mine.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think the album was bad.

actually most fans WERE eager to hear some unheard songs in original form

we still don't know what Uppercut or Hennessy sound like.  same with Revenge of a Soulja.

 

Sccit

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2012, 08:17:26 AM »
LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.


EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996

BiggBoogaBiff

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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2012, 11:04:36 AM »
LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.


EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996


I agree with the first part but not the end part. 


Eminem WAS NEVER one of the hottest producers in the game, he just had produced on some big records.  And nah, that album is that bad.  He's just has some company when it comes to people who turned great 2Pac/Makaveli songs on other posthumous songs.
 

J. B A N A N A S

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2012, 11:36:00 AM »
Beat that cracka ass
 

Sccit

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2012, 12:50:26 PM »
LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.


EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996


I agree with the first part but not the end part. 


Eminem WAS NEVER one of the hottest producers in the game, he just had produced on some big records.  And nah, that album is that bad.  He's just has some company when it comes to people who turned great 2Pac/Makaveli songs on other posthumous songs.


LOL, COME ONE, EMINEM WAS A REALLY GOOD PRODUCER UNDER DRE, "THE EMINEM SHOW" WAS A GREAT ALBUM, AND IT WAS MAINLY PRODUCED BY EM. HE PRODUCED SOME OF HIS BEST TRACKS. NOW, HIS PRODUCTION ON "LOYAL 2 THE GAME" WAS NOT SOME OF HIS BEST, BUT I'VE DEFINITELY HEARD WORSE PRODUCTIONS AROUND THAT TIME. I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE PRODUCTION SIMPLY DIDNT FIT PAC'S STYLE. LIKE I SAID, HIS POSTHUMOUS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN RELEASED IN ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART, OR NOT RELEASED AT ALL. A REMIX HERE AND THERE WOULDA BEEN ALRIGHT, BUT INSTEAD, THEY DECIDED TO REMIX PRETTY MUCH HIS ENTIRE CATALOGUE AFTER HE DIED. SHITS BULLSHIT.

BiggBoogaBiff

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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2012, 12:11:58 AM »
You're right about "The Eminem Show", it was his last great album and it gets overshadowed by his nostalgia.  That whole 2002/8 Mile Eminem Era was the shit.  It still doesn't mean he was the hottest producer in the game at that time.  He just had that machine behind him.  


U still had Quik, DJ Paul & Juicy J, Kanye, Lil' Jon, Just Blaze, and alot of other muthafuckaz for the choosin'.  They only went with Eminem becuz they thought it woulda been big on the charts... but as we all know it Flopped Hard and we all know why.  I know what angle you're coming from and I don't wanna sound like I'm hatin on Eminem but nah son, that shit was wack.  He shoulda only had like 2 beats on there at the most.


do u hear how bad he fucked up "Thug 4 Life"?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE</a>
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DeeezNuuuts83

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2012, 12:44:40 AM »
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect.  He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap).  That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.
 

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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2012, 05:43:46 AM »
Em needs to stay away from producing anything
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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2012, 06:04:39 AM »
Em needs to stay away from producing anything

I don't know how the fuck he got a beat on God's Son, but 'The Cross' was horrible too. :-X
 

Sccit

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2012, 07:56:49 AM »
You're right about "The Eminem Show", it was his last great album and it gets overshadowed by his nostalgia.  That whole 2002/8 Mile Eminem Era was the shit.  It still doesn't mean he was the hottest producer in the game at that time.  He just had that machine behind him. 


U still had Quik, DJ Paul & Juicy J, Kanye, Lil' Jon, Just Blaze, and alot of other muthafuckaz for the choosin'.  They only went with Eminem becuz they thought it woulda been big on the charts... but as we all know it Flopped Hard and we all know why.  I know what angle you're coming from and I don't wanna sound like I'm hatin on Eminem but nah son, that shit was wack.  He shoulda only had like 2 beats on there at the most.


do u hear how bad he fucked up "Thug 4 Life"?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE</a>


NOT SAYIN HE WAS THE HOTTEST, BUT UNDER DRE, HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST, AND WAS SOUGHT AFTER FOR BEATS..BEATS LIKE "TILL I COLLAPSE", "SUPERMAN", "CLEANIN OUT MY CLOSET", "SQUARE DANCE", "MY NAME", "LOSE YOURSELF", "PATIENTLY WAITING" ETC WERE ALL CONSIDERED TOP NOTCH PRODUCTIONS AND HIS NAME AS A PRODUCER WAS ON AN UPRISE. BEFORE ALL THAT, HE PRODUCED HALF OF "THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP"....BUT I AGREE. HIS PRODUCTIONS ON "LOYAL 2 THE GAME" WEREN'T SOME OF HIS BEST, AND DEFINITELY DIDN'T FIT PACS SOUND.

Sccit

Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2012, 07:59:54 AM »
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect.  He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap).  That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.


BECAUSE OF HIS WILLINGNESS TO DO THE ALBUM PRO BONO, HE WAS HAND-PICKED... IF HE WAS JUST SOME NO-NAME PRODUCER, HE WOULDA NEVER BEEN SELECTED. EITHER WAY, HE WAS NO SLOUCH AS A PRODUCER AT THE TIME, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY PICKED HIM SOLEY BASED ON THAT FACT.

BiggBoogaBiff

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Re: has em ever publicly spoke on the way he tarnished 2pacs musical legacy?
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2012, 09:10:57 AM »
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect.  He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap).  That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.


I 4got about that.  I think E.D. spoke on that