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For real two great albums there. "Harlem World", " Money, Power, Respect" and "Life Story" were all dope aswell.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on September 08, 2012, 04:24:10 PMFor real two great albums there. "Harlem World", " Money, Power, Respect" and "Life Story" were all dope aswell.The Mase album sounded good, but it's fools gold. I like the Lox and Black Rob but didn't think those albums were all that.
Quote from: Return of the Mekkan Refugee on September 08, 2012, 04:46:47 PMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on September 08, 2012, 04:24:10 PMFor real two great albums there. "Harlem World", " Money, Power, Respect" and "Life Story" were all dope aswell.The Mase album sounded good, but it's fools gold. I like the Lox and Black Rob but didn't think those albums were all that.the last hot album bad boy put out was g dep's child of the ghetto.
I pretty much forgot Dr Dre as an artist. I thought he worked for HP or some shit now.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 02:01:38 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 12:02:41 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.what final product? the album was never finished....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Seal_(Rakim_album)
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 12:02:41 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.what final product? the album was never finished....
Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.
Quote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen..
I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 04:29:36 PMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 03:17:05 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.i could see comin' wit some lyrical g shit on heat.....i'm picturin what dre had envisioned. u can replace 50 with rakim on any track, and it'll be better.When Ra does G Shit it ain't authentic. You really think "In Da Club" would have been better with Ra? Lol you tripping homie
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 03:17:05 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.i could see comin' wit some lyrical g shit on heat.....i'm picturin what dre had envisioned. u can replace 50 with rakim on any track, and it'll be better.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.
Quote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame.
Quote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guess
was pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone.
When Ra does G Shit it ain't authentic. You really think "In Da Club" would have been better with Ra? Lol you tripping homie
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:25:28 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 07, 2012, 09:27:55 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 06, 2012, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications. but to be fair, half those artist on Badboy you can't count because they were signed when Dre was still at Death Row. You gotta count artists signed to Badboy from when Dre started Aftermath to now. To be even more fair, now that Badboy is under Interscope like Aftermath is, how many artists has Puffy put out? Don't worry if wait...Ok well since BadBoy been under Interscope like Aftermath is, what has Puffy put out?
Quote from: jman91331 on September 07, 2012, 09:27:55 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 06, 2012, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications. but to be fair, half those artist on Badboy you can't count because they were signed when Dre was still at Death Row. You gotta count artists signed to Badboy from when Dre started Aftermath to now. To be even more fair, now that Badboy is under Interscope like Aftermath is, how many artists has Puffy put out? Don't worry if wait...Ok well since BadBoy been under Interscope like Aftermath is, what has Puffy put out?
Quote from: NIKCC on September 06, 2012, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications. but to be fair, half those artist on Badboy you can't count because they were signed when Dre was still at Death Row. You gotta count artists signed to Badboy from when Dre started Aftermath to now. To be even more fair, now that Badboy is under Interscope like Aftermath is, how many artists has Puffy put out? Don't worry if wait...
Quote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications.
that's one, name anotha one.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 11:39:45 PM When Ra does G Shit it ain't authentic. You really think "In Da Club" would have been better with Ra? Lol you tripping homie I think a lot of times people just won't give credit where it is due. 50 owned that beat. There aren't many cats who could have came in there and made that anywhere near as a hot a song as 50 did at the time. So many of these folks just want to sound like they are too cool for school by suggesting that so and so could do a better job and I frankly have my doubts. There are great lyricists but most of them would be too busy penning 16 bars to think of something as simple and catchy as "Go shorty. It's your birthday!" or come off the chorus with a vicious bridge like he did. I think someone of you need to stop trying to rewrite history like 50 Cent was a super hot song-writer at the time and just give that man his props.
like i said, it may not have been as big commercially, but it woulda been a better song....thats my opinion. i prefer rakim over 50, any day of the week. but i understand that 50's got catchier content, of course. that goes witout sayin.
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 11:39:45 PM When Ra does G Shit it ain't authentic. You really think "In Da Club" would have been better with Ra? Lol you tripping homie 50 owned that beat. There aren't many cats who could have came in there and made that anywhere near as a hot a song as 50 did at the time.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on September 08, 2012, 09:29:10 PMQuote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 11:39:45 PM When Ra does G Shit it ain't authentic. You really think "In Da Club" would have been better with Ra? Lol you tripping homie 50 owned that beat. There aren't many cats who could have came in there and made that anywhere near as a hot a song as 50 did at the time. its impossible to say, Fif has always been a great rapper, but i sure others couldve pulled off a decent performance on that beat back in 03 as well.
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 10:37:59 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 02:01:38 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 12:02:41 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.what final product? the album was never finished....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Seal_(Rakim_album)"Then in 2007, Rakim decided to record completely new songs for the album. In an interview with Billboard on July 13, 2009, when asked about if this album contains any material from the unreleased album he did with Dr. Dre, he stated "No, that's locked down in the lab for now. This is me live from New York City, everything brand new." "7th Seal" was a different album from "Oh My God"