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was pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone.
Quote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications.
that's one, name anotha one.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guess
Quote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guessYep! I remember reading (I think it was The Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 06, 2012, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications. but to be fair, half those artist on Badboy you can't count because they were signed when Dre was still at Death Row. You gotta count artists signed to Badboy from when Dre started Aftermath to now. To be even more fair, now that Badboy is under Interscope like Aftermath is, how many artists has Puffy put out? Don't worry if wait...
Quote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guessYep! I remember reading (I think it was The Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guessYep! I remember reading (I think it was The Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 12:02:41 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.what final product? the album was never finished....
Quote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.
Quote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen..
I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 02:01:38 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on September 07, 2012, 12:02:41 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 04:53:44 PMQuote from: jman91331 on September 05, 2012, 03:00:54 PM I think the Rakim thing was more a Jimmy Iovine thing & less of a Dr. Dre thing as far as it not working out. On Dre's part he like people that give it 110% and from what I read/heard Rakim wasn't all that motivated to come in & work, moody, want open to trying new ideas (like writing hooks, writing about differnt ideas, ect.) and I heard the beats DJ Primere was comin up with weren't up to Dre's standards. With Jimmy I think if he feels it ain't gonna make a bunch of green, he ain't fuckin with it. Whoever decided not to release that musta been trippin bad, cuz the hype for that album was unlike anything ive ever seen.. Judging by the final product, it was good Aftermath didn't put it out. It seems like Rah didn't want to put in the work creating a great album and just wanted to half ass it....which he did with 7th Seal.what final product? the album was never finished....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Seal_(Rakim_album)
Quote from: dubsmith_nz on September 07, 2012, 03:17:05 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.i could see comin' wit some lyrical g shit on heat.....i'm picturin what dre had envisioned. u can replace 50 with rakim on any track, and it'll be better.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 07, 2012, 12:24:04 PMQuote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame. Hell no, that shit wasn't Ra's style at all. 50 was perfect for that beat, killed it as well.
Quote from: sms130 on September 07, 2012, 10:01:18 AMQuote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.Damn... "Heat" woulda been way doper with Rakim insteada 50. Damn shame.
Quote from: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on September 07, 2012, 04:47:58 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 05, 2012, 01:31:01 PMwas pretty shitty how dre had the balls to do a hip-hop legend like rakim.........he was never a proper fit in the first place, but at least they coulda put 1 album out. i remember how huge the anticipation for "oh my god" was back in 2001. shit was intense. the album woulda gone 5x platinum offa hype alone. according to Ra, they were cool, but just had creative diffrences for the album, be like that sometimes, so Ra decided to leave i guesseI remember reading (I think it wahe Source) about Dre wanting Ra to "kill" and Ra didn't wanna "kill" over Dre beats. Actually the 50 Cent track "Heat" (from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" album) was originally for Ra and he rejected it. That was one of those beats Dre wanted Ra on his "gangsta shit". Dre (later) gave it to 50.
Quote from: jman91331 on September 07, 2012, 09:27:55 AMQuote from: NIKCC on September 06, 2012, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: doggfather on September 06, 2012, 05:03:43 AMthat's one, name anotha one. puffy never signed and dropped cats at dre's rate.....lota artists went platinum on bad boy. Puffy, Biggie, Da Band, Faith Evans, Total, 112, Mase, Lox, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Shyne, Dream, Yung Joc, Cassie, Dannity Kane.....and thats not even counting all the gold certifications. but to be fair, half those artist on Badboy you can't count because they were signed when Dre was still at Death Row. You gotta count artists signed to Badboy from when Dre started Aftermath to now. To be even more fair, now that Badboy is under Interscope like Aftermath is, how many artists has Puffy put out? Don't worry if wait...Ok well since BadBoy been under Interscope like Aftermath is, what has Puffy put out?The last 7 artists on that list came post-aftermath
Quote from: KC-HOODSTA on September 06, 2012, 03:42:51 PMatleast bad boy puts out albums bad boy aint put out a hot album since Life After Death
atleast bad boy puts out albums
Quote from: OG Black Wilson on September 06, 2012, 11:25:28 PMQuote from: KC-HOODSTA on September 06, 2012, 03:42:51 PMatleast bad boy puts out albums bad boy aint put out a hot album since Life After DeathThey had two great albums since then. Puffy's No Way Out album was epic. Big's death gave him a wealth of content to pull from, Jadakiss did a lot of writing for the album, and production at tht time for Bad Boy was top notch....Also Shyne's debut album was solid top to bottom. Some monster bangers on that one.